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« on: October 23, 2015, 04:19:12 PM »
« edited: October 23, 2015, 04:36:09 PM by TNvolunteer »

Clinton (D): 46%
Trump (R): 35%

Sanders (D): 42%
Trump (R): 34%

Clinton (D): 45%
Carson (R): 35%

Sanders (D): 41%
Carson (R): 33%

Clinton (D): 47%
Bush (R): 31%

Sanders (D): 43%
Bush (R): 30%

Clinton (D): 45%
Fiorina (R): 30%

Sanders (D): 42%
Fiorina (R): 29%

http://www.bgsu.edu/content/dam/BGSU/news/2015/10/BGSUPollFindings_Day1.pdf

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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2015, 04:23:06 PM »

Zogby?
Right in the trash.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2015, 04:26:00 PM »

LOL Zogby
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2015, 04:32:44 PM »

Looks like junk.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2015, 04:39:57 PM »

Hillary will win Ohio by double digits, but lose Pennsylvania. Against Rubio she will win Texas but lose Michigan. And of course, noted swing states Iowa and Wisconsin have become safe R/safe D respectively. Fun stuff!
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2015, 05:29:46 PM »

Junk poll!
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2015, 05:36:21 PM »

The wave is building.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2015, 05:47:06 PM »

Idk guys. This seems legitimate.
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2015, 06:00:28 PM »

At least they're publishing the results. Unlike all those other coward pollsters who either manipulate their own results in order to fit with the mainstream or hide it all together and throw it into their own bin immediately because they don't find their own results credible. Another pollster I'm proud of is the one for CNN. They're not trying to hide anything either, at least not at this stage.
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2015, 06:25:20 PM »

This is good news that OH is indeed still a tossup. Even Sanders lead.
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2015, 07:18:30 PM »

Since everyone knows Pa is 2.5 Dem, OH is in play making it impossible for the GOP to win. I say she wins Pa by 5 and OH by 3.
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2015, 07:48:59 PM »

Yes. Sanders crushes Fiorina by sixteen points.
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2015, 10:56:52 PM »

Hillary will win Ohio by double digits, but lose Pennsylvania. Against Rubio she will win Texas but lose Michigan. And of course, noted swing states Iowa and Wisconsin have become safe R/safe D respectively. Fun stuff!

1. This poll says nothing directly about Pennsylvania. Someone will poll Pennsylvania soon enough in the aftermath of the implosion of the server/Benghazi hearings. It is unlikely that Hillary Clinton is doing significantly better in Ohio than in Pennsylvania.

I have seen a similar trend in Indiana with limited data.

But that said, many were surprised when West Virginia went for George W. Bush in 2000.

But don't worry. Quinnipiac will poll Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania soon enough. So will PPP.

2. Republicans have apparently become toxic in Wisconsin but not in Iowa. This looks specific to Wisconsin. Could Wisconsin become about as Democratic as Massachusetts when Iowa remains a swing state as usual? Maybe. But Quinnipiac will poll Iowa in the next month or so.

3. We have yet to see the effects of the Congressional hearing translate themselves into polling results.  What could well be the strongest case against Hillary Clinton has evaporated.

4. If I am to predict anything, it is that Hillary Clinton will soon be back to where she was before the server 'scandal' and the Benghazi attack took her polling numbers down. Those polling numbers were a very good position. Republicans almost need a military or diplomatic disaster or an economic meltdown to win the Presidency in 2016.
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2015, 10:58:07 PM »

>Zogby

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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2015, 11:05:39 PM »

It's Zogby people.

Some of the top GOP'ers are not at 31-33% percent in Ohio lol. Close thread.
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2015, 06:37:16 AM »

Zogby polls = toilet paper
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2015, 08:43:39 AM »

Usually I don't comment on individual polls, but this is a really strange poll. Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Clinton neither breaks 47% and Jeb is at 31%? What's that only 78% total? What the hell? Rubio not polled?
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2015, 10:19:32 AM »

Consistent trendline here; eventhough Its Zogby, Clinton does well in Va & OH better than CO, so the Dems are favored to win, making either state the bellweather, and making CO a not must win state. Different from what has been thought that SW is blue wall. Va or OH is the wall state.
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2015, 01:31:40 PM »

Consistent trendline here; eventhough Its Zogby, Clinton does well in Va & OH better than CO, so the Dems are favored to win, making either state the bellweather, and making CO a not must win state. Different from what has been thought that SW is blue wall. Va or OH is the wall state.

Hillary has always had tons of support in the east and next to no support among whites out west. Nothing new there. Which probably makes it even more important for her to pick a running mate from a western state. She'll struggle with winning Colorado, perhaps even Nevada, if she goes for someone from Virginia or Ohio or something. Especially if she's up again Rubio or Bush.
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2015, 02:33:08 PM »

Julian Castro will appeal to all groups, especially union voters that will help Ted Strickland get elected and NV voters to get CCM voters elected.
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2015, 11:34:55 AM »
« Edited: October 26, 2015, 11:50:53 AM by EliteLX »

Consistent trendline here; eventhough Its Zogby, Clinton does well in Va & OH better than CO, so the Dems are favored to win, making either state the bellweather, and making CO a not must win state. Different from what has been thought that SW is blue wall. Va or OH is the wall state.

There is zero "constant trendline" of Hillary running Ohio, at all. lol? The only swing state of this category Hillary has her edge on leading into 2016 which will require a hell battle for the GOP is Virginia. Which props to the Dems, because that's an electoral safekeeper to have as an advantage if they can keep it.

This is a one and only result outlier poll and it's garbage, nothing new with Zogby history. Leading top tiers aren't starting with 31-35% of Ohio's vote; ESPECIALLY not with the competitive statewide/nationwide poll numbers the GOP has been producing these past few months. That's just silly.
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2015, 01:55:58 PM »

Consistent trendline here; eventhough Its Zogby, Clinton does well in Va & OH better than CO, so the Dems are favored to win, making either state the bellweather, and making CO a not must win state. Different from what has been thought that SW is blue wall. Va or OH is the wall state.

There is zero "constant trendline" of Hillary running Ohio, at all. lol? The only swing state of this category Hillary has her edge on leading into 2016 which will require a hell battle for the GOP is Virginia. Which props to the Dems, because that's an electoral safekeeper to have as an advantage if they can keep it.

This is a one and only result outlier poll and it's garbage, nothing new with Zogby history. Leading top tiers aren't starting with 31-35% of Ohio's vote; ESPECIALLY not with the competitive statewide/nationwide poll numbers the GOP has been producing these past few months. That's just silly.

PPP and QU already has Clinton running ahead the GOP in OH, check the database. She polls better in OH & Va over the GOP than CO. It is a consistent trendline here.
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2015, 02:39:05 PM »
« Edited: October 26, 2015, 02:42:38 PM by EliteLX »

RCP has just about all the reputable non-clown contenders tied or up on Hillary in OH. I'm not worried about Trump's #s. If for some god-forsaken reason my party's primary voters put him in I'm fully expecting Hillary to slide into the WH in '16 regardless.

They've got Rubio, Kasich, Bush, even Fiorina holding leads/tieing her in Ohio. I'm not arguing the election with you, my point here is this outlier poll's impossible results are ridiculous and matches with the companies poor history. It can be disregarded and means nothing. /thread.
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