Ugh, why did we think this was a good idea?

[Adam Griffin]

So I was aware that some cabinet names and whatnot had changed recently and I've been trying to dig up what exists/doesn't because the Wiki is outdated and there are still duplicate uses of the terms across everywhere.

But this:

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Why did we "combine" SoIA & AG, only to then split off the AG's actual powers into yet another office? So basically the AG and SoIA are combined into one office...and then any meaningful powers of the AG are put into a completely new office? What exactly are the meaningful powers that the AG's office has that don't have to do with bringing charges and representing the government before the courts? Wut?

Not only does this seem ridiculous, but it didn't actually even decrease the size of the cabinet (saying that "Solicitor General" is "non-cabinet" but utilizing the same procedure for selection as any other cabinet member is, well, silly). Also, does the Solicitor General serve at the leisure of the President? Is this someone who is appointed by each President or what? Ludicrous stuff!

[tmthforu94]

Was the Attorney General responsible for updating the Wiki? Trying to remember - I think it was at one point but don't know if a change was made.

Still, this was worded terribly. Who introduced it? They should be publicly mocked.

[Türkisblau]

This law should obviously be repealed...

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Who's that crazy Pole destroying the Justice, it's Kal, Crazy Kal!!!

This bill has passed the Senate.

AYE (: Kalwejt, Truman, Cris, Lumine, New Canadaland, JoMCaR, RPryor03, PiT
NAY (1): NCYankee
ABSTAIN (0):
NOT-VOTING (1): Cassius

Called it!!!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

You should pay more attention to the Senate and communicate with your people more about what they were/are doing, Adam?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Was the Attorney General responsible for updating the Wiki? Trying to remember - I think it was at one point but don't know if a change was made.

Still, this was worded terribly. Who introduced it? They should be publicly mocked.

Yes, it was the AG of course. There was a bill passed around the same time as this one, creating a National Archivist, appointed on as needed basis by the President to update the wiki whenever it falls too far behind.

[Adam Griffin]

OK, well this needs to be corrected. Why have an AG "Secretary of Home Affairs" if the only role is to "update the Wiki"? We've already proven that that is unenforceable.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

OK, well this needs to be corrected. Why have an AG "Secretary of Home Affairs" if the only role is to "update the Wiki"? We've already proven that that is unenforceable.

It's roll would also include whatever the SoIA used to do as well. But yeah!

[Blair]

It's best equivalent is the Home Secretary in the UK who tends to be given tons of power over arrests and other matters but there's still an Attorney General for the legal side. 

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Kalwejt's original bill would have consolidated the Internal Affairs and Justice Departments under the "Secretary of Home Affairs" and united the Census Bureau and DoFE under the "Secretary of Forum Affairs," but Bore, Oakvale and others objected to the abolition of the AG post, leading to the introduction of the temporary position of Solicitor General as a compromise. At the time, it seemed like a good way to reduce the number of offices; in retrospect, it seems to have only complicated things further.

[Bacon King]

After perusing the wiki I have compiled this list of responsibilities the Department of Home Affairs has inherited from the Attorney General:

• Per the Citizen Access to Law Act, keep statutes, amendments, and court cases updated on the Wiki (i.e. the Wiki stuff everyone knows about)
  
• Per the Attorney General Reform Act, maintain an official thread of updates pertaining to court cases of crimes created by the GM (I don't think this has ever happened)
  
• Per the Special Prosecutor Bill, appoint Special Prosecutors whenever needed (I guess this might be the responsibility of the Solicitor General; it depends on how narrowly you interpret the SG's mandate)
  
• Per the Proportional Representation Act, determine the succession of specific At-Large Senate seats in situations where incoming and outgoing Senators must be matched by ideology after multiple parties lose seats to other multiple parties (I don't think this has ever happened)
  
• Per the Demilitarization and Security of Sports Act, determine when it is appropriate to provide military assistance to law enforcement agencies with security arrangements for sporting events (I'm not even sure why this is a law)
  
• Per the Major Legislation Clarification Act, have the sole discretion to apply Major Legislation Status to Wiki Statute pages (this is just another wiki responsibility given to the AG)
  
• Per the Wiki Reform Act of 2013, work closely with the Wiki Update Commission while it is active (lol I don't think this ever existed)
  Per the Executive Branch Reorganization Act, keep all responsibilities of the IRL Department of Justice that have not been changed by Atlasian laws and were not inherited by the Solicitor General (FBI, U.S. Marshals, Bureau of Prisons, ATF and DEA if they still exist, US Bureau of INTERPOL, a dozen or so minor departments with various responsibilities)
  
  
  sooooo... really not much except for Wiki stuff and Law Enforcement agencies

[Associate Justice PiT]

     The point of the Solicitor General is that it only exists as-needed. It would reduce general staffing needs for the government by striking a Cabinet position.

[Adam Griffin]

     The point of the Solicitor General is that it only exists as-needed. It would reduce general staffing needs for the government by striking a Cabinet position.

So what is the process for "termination"? Presumably at the end of a case or whatever...how is he/she relieved of duties? It says it is not a cabinet position, so I am unaware whether the President has the ability to dismiss it as necessary.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     The point of the Solicitor General is that it only exists as-needed. It would reduce general staffing needs for the government by striking a Cabinet position.

So what is the process for "termination"? Presumably at the end of a case or whatever...how is he/she relieved of duties? It says it is not a cabinet position, so I am unaware whether the President has the ability to dismiss it as necessary.

     I will admit that it is vague, though we pass lots of laws replete with vagueness. Not saying that is a good thing, but it is what it is. It is more an argument for amending the law than it is for repealing it.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

My primary concern was the loss of independence from the judiciary. We intentionally included exceptions for DOJ so that the President couldn't just write the department out with executive order for a reason (back when the power was given to the President early tihs year. SoFE and RG were also likewise protected).