Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin: rank from most liberal to most conservative
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King of Kensington
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« on: October 29, 2015, 04:50:53 PM »

If we go by recent presidential elections (D and R, respectively), it goes MI, WI, PA.

2012

1. Michigan  54.2%-44.7%
2. Wisconsin 52.8%-45.9%
3. Pennsylvania 52%-46.6%

2008

1. Michigan 57.4%-41%
2. Wisconsin 56.2%-42.3%
3. Pennsylvania 54.5%-44.2%
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2015, 06:15:25 PM »

Michigan to Wisconsin to Pennsylvania.
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King of Kensington
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2015, 07:30:09 PM »

Though in terms of ideological identification, Pennsylvania is a bit more liberal than Michigan and Wisconsin.

% liberal:

Pennsylvania  22.8
Michigan  21.8
Wisconsin  21.5

% conservative:

Wisconsin 36.4
Michigan  35.7
Pennsylvania  34.8

http://www.gallup.com/poll/125066/State-States.aspx
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2015, 12:50:33 AM »

Taking into account a more abstract measurement of the cultural and ideological inclinations of the states over a period of decades to potentially more than a century ago, I would say that Wisconsin is the most liberal, Pennsylvania is the most conservative and Michigan is in the middle. However, it depends on how you measure the terms "conservative" and "liberal".

Wisconsin has often been referred to as the birthplace of progressive ideals due to its longstanding values (first in the nation to implement collective bargaining), while Pennsylvania has had more substantial roots in social conservatism dating back ages. Michigan likely had/still has the largest unionization rate of the three - helping to affect the culture and policies - but probably isn't that much different than PA in terms of social and community groupthink.
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King of Kensington
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2015, 07:35:09 PM »

Yeah, Wisconsin has the richest progressive history of the three.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2015, 12:47:14 PM »

Wisconsin has also changed a lot. Milwaukee has some of the most conservative suburbs of any city in America and upstate has seen a significant rightward drift as well.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2015, 02:04:30 PM »

All three are states that should trend Republican over the next couple decades, but I would have to go Michigan-Wisconsin-Pennsylvania, though it might be worth watching the possibility for Michigan and Wisconsin to flip this time around.
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2015, 02:20:22 PM »

Wisconsin has also changed a lot. Milwaukee has some of the most conservative suburbs of any city in America and upstate has seen a significant rightward drift as well.

This.  People act like every state has the same types of people and same types of attitudes that it had ten, twenty, fifty and (in some hilariously stupid cases) one hundred years ago, and that's just simply not true.  There's a reason terms like "Prairie Radicals" existed long ago and are never heard now a days.  How states voted in the past is just not relevant to today.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2015, 12:38:50 AM »

Wisconsin-Pennsylvania-Michigan


317: Rep. Paul Ryan(R-WI)/Sen. Pat Toomey(R-PA) - 51.6%
221: Pres. Barack Obama(D-IL)/Vice Pres. Joe Biden(D-DE) - 47.3%

Is a pretty good summary of what might have happened in 2012 if Ryan had ran.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2015, 01:19:28 AM »

Wisconsin-Pennsylvania-Michigan


317: Rep. Paul Ryan(R-WI)/Sen. Pat Toomey(R-PA) - 51.6%
221: Pres. Barack Obama(D-IL)/Vice Pres. Joe Biden(D-DE) - 47.3%

Is a pretty good summary of what might have happened in 2012 if Ryan had ran.
lol no

try again
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