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« on: November 01, 2015, 07:35:14 PM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_International

So many good choices. The Corrupt, Non-Ideological But Currently Right-Wing Party in Mexico? The Creepy Fascist Personality Cult Party in Turkey? The Social Democratic Party of Lithuania, who introduced the first and most draconian "gay propaganda" law, giving Putin the idea? Of course the SI's Moldovan affiliate did the same, and who could forget the Spare Putin Party in Russia? From some leftist perspectives the Israeli Labor Party takes the honors by default. Then there are all the various third world affiliates, some of which jump out pretty clearly (e.g. the Rich People Party in Malaysia).
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2015, 04:28:00 AM »

Well Ben Ali and Mubarak's parties were good bets.

Pakistan People's Party, maybe?
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2015, 06:46:36 AM »

Honorary mention to our Labour party
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2015, 11:59:47 AM »

What does "right-wing" mean in this thread? "What I don't like"?
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2015, 12:10:51 PM »

What does "right-wing" mean in this thread? "What I don't like"?

It means "right-wing." I'd probably vote for three of the parties mentioned in the OP if I lived in those countries.
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2015, 12:24:26 PM »

It means "right-wing." I'd probably vote for three of the parties mentioned in the OP if I lived in those countries.
And what does right-wing mean? I wasn't necessarily talking about you, but more about the fact that people can interpret this in so many ways. Does it mean economically right-wing? If yes, on an absolute level or on a relative level considering the status-quo and other parties' positions? If no, then what does it relate to?
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2015, 01:53:13 PM »
« Edited: November 02, 2015, 01:55:10 PM by tpfkaw »

It means "right-wing." I'd probably vote for three of the parties mentioned in the OP if I lived in those countries.
And what does right-wing mean? I wasn't necessarily talking about you, but more about the fact that people can interpret this in so many ways. Does it mean economically right-wing? If yes, on an absolute level or on a relative level considering the status-quo and other parties' positions? If no, then what does it relate to?

That's why I'm asking people's opinions!

Nevertheless, it's usually fairly easy to place parties on a single-axis left-right scale. Like even in the relatively complicated party system of the Netherlands it would be

left | SP | PvdD | GL | PvdA | D66 | CU | center | CDA | 50+ | VVD | PVV | VNL | SGP | right

(you may have your quibbles but basically accurate)

Anyway, the main point of contention here is whether one grades on a curve for determining how right-wing a party is. For example, is it a bigger deal for a party to be against gay rights or abortion if it's in Europe than if it's in the Middle East or Africa?
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2015, 02:03:29 PM »

I generally don't believe in the left-right axis as the sole determinator of political positions in European multi-party systems, and while I could see the case for your model, I would make a different categorization. The main problem is that parties aren't necessarily divided along the same lines on immaterial issues as on material issues. This, for instance, renders the above "model" for the Netherlands less meaningful.

But I see where you're going. In that case I'd argue that a "third world" nominally socialist party, not too progressive and not too left-wing economically, would take the cake. If we're just looking at Western Europe, the Danish Social Democrats might win.


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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2015, 06:24:09 PM »

Left and Right mean different things in different countries. The question is meaningless.
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2015, 07:55:23 PM »

All of them by default as they were all part of the traitorous group of counter-revolutionaries Second International.
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2015, 08:31:52 PM »

Left and Right mean different things in different countries. The question is meaningless.

Obviously the fascist PRD is the most right-wing.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2015, 03:01:24 AM »

The People's Action Party of Singapore actually was formed as a leftist, anti-imperialist party before Lee Kwan Yew turned it into his personal machine. It was expelled from the SI, but it arguably always has had socialist economic policies.
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