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« Reply #75 on: April 02, 2016, 08:54:09 AM »

The Right has been associated with anti-intellectualism in a nation in which more people are getting well educated, more anti-environmentalist in a nation increasingly sensitive to the environment, and more anti-feminist in a culture increasingly feminist. It has also stood for trickle-down economics that can only fail and for wars for profit in which the sons of poor people come back in body bags and easy money comes back to very rich people in (figurative) money bags. The Right is out of touch, and it can win only by changing the rules to its favor.
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« Reply #76 on: April 02, 2016, 09:01:28 AM »

Because of two issues: 2008 and immigration. 2008 will probably be the most dramatic shift of economy in our lifetimes, in which fossil fuels have gave way to Solar energy. As AL Gore correctly predicted. As Americans have left newspaper jobs tp go to service jobs. By now, most have adjusted to. Unlikely to repeat under a Dem president and it happened under Bush W. Immigrants, as more children of immigrants get adjusted like regular citizens, their conservative past will leave them like most Mexicans
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« Reply #77 on: April 03, 2016, 10:54:10 AM »

Because of two issues: 2008 and immigration. 2008 will probably be the most dramatic shift of economy in our lifetimes, in which fossil fuels have gave way to Solar energy. As AL Gore correctly predicted. As Americans have left newspaper jobs tp go to service jobs. By now, most have adjusted to. Unlikely to repeat under a Dem president and it happened under Bush W. Immigrants, as more children of immigrants get adjusted like regular citizens, their conservative past will leave them like most Mexicans
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« Reply #78 on: April 03, 2016, 02:01:52 PM »

The days of "law and order", and the 50s style households are long over. 
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« Reply #79 on: April 14, 2016, 11:21:22 AM »

The days of "law and order", and the 50s style households are long over. 

"Law and order" in the sense of brutal treatment of offenders and suspects is going out of style. Liberals believe in law and order as a necessity for a decent social order. They no longer believe that criminals are 'poor, misguided, oppressed people' people who need a little enlightenment and the alleviation of the miserable conditions in which they live.

Criminals are almost all simply evil people, people of either sadistic cruelty, unrestrained anger, or reckless contempt for the safety of others. Example: Don Blankenship, coal baron, who put profit above the safety of miners and was convicted of crimes related to such.   If we want to deal with poverty, we need do so out of humanitarian principle instead of targeting those who would do us harm as beneficiaries of largesse.

... what is more significant is that people whom Republicans might have won if they did not go to their anti-intellectual and nativist demagoguery, people who might want lower taxes and more lenient regulation of their businesses, have been voting Democratic.   
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« Reply #80 on: May 12, 2016, 07:36:34 PM »

In terms of why the country is trending more Democratic, barely anybody has mentioned the obvious reason: 
- Minorities make up a much, much larger percentage of the voting electorate than they used to.  Also, they are increasingly fleeing the Republican party.  Facing both of these realities, Republicans now need a dramatically higher percentage of the white vote than they used to rely on even just ten or twenty years ago.

Also, younger generations are replacing older ones.  Younger generations are more liberal than older generations on almost all social issues.  On economic issues, the differences are less extreme but IMO millennials in particular are rather left-wing, having been significantly affect by/coming of age around 2008.
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« Reply #81 on: May 13, 2016, 03:26:22 PM »

Because the economic conditions that created huge surpluses for Tax Cuts 1960, 80 and 2001 isn't there anymore.

GOP is in a drought politically since the Crash of Wallstreet and Dems will continue to win
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« Reply #82 on: May 13, 2016, 03:37:23 PM »

The Republicans have gone too extreme on immigration, alienating an increasingly large voting bloc.
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« Reply #83 on: May 13, 2016, 05:08:01 PM »

Tectonic plates do weird things Roll Eyes
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« Reply #84 on: May 14, 2016, 08:16:49 AM »
« Edited: May 14, 2016, 08:20:57 AM by hopper »

In terms of why the country is trending more Democratic, barely anybody has mentioned the obvious reason:  
- Minorities make up a much, much larger percentage of the voting electorate than they used to.  Also, they are increasingly fleeing the Republican party.  Facing both of these realities, Republicans now need a dramatically higher percentage of the white vote than they used to rely on even just ten or twenty years ago.

Also, younger generations are replacing older ones.  Younger generations are more liberal than older generations on almost all social issues.  On economic issues, the differences are less extreme but IMO millennials in particular are rather left-wing, having been significantly affect by/coming of age around 2008.
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Hispanics have never voted for Republicans in big numbers in Presidential Cycles unless it was for a Republican that was from a state with a big Hispanic Population like for Bush W.(Texas) and Reagan(California.) Blacks-They haven't gone big for a Republican Nominee since Nixon winning 32% of Black Vote in 1960. With Asians you might have a point though because that's a recent development with Asians trending D big time since 1996 in Presidential Elections.

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« Reply #85 on: May 14, 2016, 08:19:22 AM »

The Republicans have gone too extreme on immigration, alienating an increasingly large voting bloc.
True their rhetoric on immigration has killed them at times.
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« Reply #86 on: May 14, 2016, 08:26:01 AM »

Because the economic conditions that created huge surpluses for Tax Cuts 1960, 80 and 2001 isn't there anymore.

GOP is in a drought politically since the Crash of Wallstreet and Dems will continue to win
Kennedy (a Democrat) cut taxes in the 1960's not a Republican.
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« Reply #87 on: May 14, 2016, 08:29:47 AM »

The days of "law and order", and the 50s style households are long over. 
Well even some Republicans are in favor of "Criminal Justice Reform" currently like Rand Paul and Mike Lee.
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« Reply #88 on: May 14, 2016, 09:18:45 AM »

But Teddy Kennedy who should of been prez wouldn't have in 1980.
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« Reply #89 on: May 14, 2016, 12:19:44 PM »

Discuss, Beyond just the fact that younger generations are more liberal, why is this?


It is not: it is shifting rightward. Unless, of course, you take the Latin American view that National Socialism is a leftwing ideology.
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« Reply #90 on: May 14, 2016, 12:28:06 PM »

Discuss, Beyond just the fact that younger generations are more liberal, why is this?


It is not: it is shifting rightward. Unless, of course, you take the Latin American view that National Socialism is a leftwing ideology.

I wouldn't say young kids are trending full blown socialist. They are sick of capitalism running amuck and Sanders has helped reinforce the idea that unfettered capitalism isn't the only option.

However, the beliefs and political trends of American youth are definitely not conservative or trending right in any significant way ('right' and 'conservative' as defined in America). Of course we need more presidential elections to see how the very youngest adults continue to vote, but the right's agenda finds little common ground with Millennials.
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« Reply #91 on: May 22, 2016, 10:07:34 PM »

Discuss, Beyond just the fact that younger generations are more liberal, why is this?


It is not: it is shifting rightward. Unless, of course, you take the Latin American view that National Socialism is a leftwing ideology.
It is?
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