Hastert Portrait Removed from House Hallway

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[Classic Conservative]

HP Move

[JerryArkansas]

HP Move

The man sexually abused kids and then used hush money to keep them quite.  How is removing the guys portrait a bad move?

[Classic Conservative]

HP Move

The man sexually abused kids and then used hush money to keep them quite.  How is removing the guys portrait a bad move?

I don't support at all what he did but the guy was the House Speaker he shouldn't be removed from the walls, but I'm very traditionalist.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I completely agree with Classic Conservative. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the hush money part either. He was free to do what he wanted as I have previously stated, and it is despicable that our government is prosecuting him for that. Also, I'd bet there are a lot of portraits of slaveholders in our Federal buildings. Must all those be removed too, or does "time-context" make that acceptable. Is there no objectively morality?

This article is not exactly about the topic, but a lot of it involves how I feel on the matter of this case: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426386/denny-hastert-money-laundering-sentencing-reform

[bedstuy]

HP Move

The man sexually abused kids and then used hush money to keep them quite.  How is removing the guys portrait a bad move?

I don't support at all what he did but the guy was the House Speaker he shouldn't be removed from the walls, but I'm very traditionalist.

He's a child molester.  

I completely agree with Classic Conservative. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the hush money part either. He was free to do what he wanted as I have previously stated, and it is despicable that our government is prosecuting him for that. Also, I'd bet there are a lot of portraits of slaveholders in our Federal buildings. Must all those be removed too, or does "time-context" make that acceptable. Is there no objectively morality?

This article is not exactly about the topic, but a lot of it involves how I feel on the matter of this case: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426386/denny-hastert-money-laundering-sentencing-reform

He's a child molester.  

[Classic Conservative]

HP Move

The man sexually abused kids and then used hush money to keep them quite.  How is removing the guys portrait a bad move?

I don't support at all what he did but the guy was the House Speaker he shouldn't be removed from the walls, but I'm very traditionalist.

He's a child molester. 

He was the former Speaker of the House, he's not David Duke.

[bedstuy]

HP Move

The man sexually abused kids and then used hush money to keep them quite.  How is removing the guys portrait a bad move?

I don't support at all what he did but the guy was the House Speaker he shouldn't be removed from the walls, but I'm very traditionalist.

He's a child molester. 

He was the former Speaker of the House, he's not David Duke.

But...  he's a child molester.  

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

OK seriously? So it's OK we have Henry Clay in the rotunda, but not Hastert? Very sensible precedent.

[tik 🪀✨]

I agree that unless we get rid of everything bad from history all at once that this doesn't make any sense.

[Penelope]

FF Move (normal, sane)

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the hush money part either. He was free to do what he wanted as I have previously stated, and it is despicable that our government is prosecuting him for that.

Stunning.

[Bojack Horseman]

Oppose, for the same reason that Maryland Gov. Parris Glendening put Spiro Agnew's portrait back up in the MD State Capital: You can't re-write history.

[Sumner 1868]

Oppose, for the same reason that Maryland Gov. Parris Glendening put Spiro Agnew's portrait back up in the MD State Capital: You can't re-write history.

Indeed. If we remove this portrait, than many, many more must follow to be consistent.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

I'm pretty sure we can separate the kiddy-diddlers from the standard corrupt politicians without being hypocrites.

[SteveRogers]

I completely agree with Classic Conservative. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the hush money part either. He was free to do what he wanted as I have previously stated, and it is despicable that our government is prosecuting him for that. Also, I'd bet there are a lot of portraits of slaveholders in our Federal buildings. Must all those be removed too, or does "time-context" make that acceptable. Is there no objectively morality?

This article is not exactly about the topic, but a lot of it involves how I feel on the matter of this case: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426386/denny-hastert-money-laundering-sentencing-reform

Lol, the government isn't prosecuting him for paying hush money. He absolutely had the right to pay off his blackmailer. What he did not have the right to do was launder money for that purpose any more than he had a right to sell drugs or rob a bank to raise his hush money.  

As for whether the House should be removing his portrait, my gut says that it feels like a disservice to the public for the House to start trying to remove the history of its terrible leadership choices.

[SATW]

I completely agree with Classic Conservative. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the hush money part either. He was free to do what he wanted as I have previously stated, and it is despicable that our government is prosecuting him for that. Also, I'd bet there are a lot of portraits of slaveholders in our Federal buildings. Must all those be removed too, or does "time-context" make that acceptable. Is there no objectively morality?

This article is not exactly about the topic, but a lot of it involves how I feel on the matter of this case: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426386/denny-hastert-money-laundering-sentencing-reform

lol no,

[Ebsy]

I completely agree with Classic Conservative. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the hush money part either.

I guarantee you that you have never been more wrong in your life.

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

As for whether the House should be removing his portrait, my gut says that it feels like a disservice to the public for the House to start trying to remove the history of its terrible leadership choices.

[DINGO Joe]

Leave the portrait up, but paint some bars on it, or put some prison bars up in front of the portrait.  Put up a little plaque explaining why.

[Intell]

I'm pretty sure we can separate the kiddy-diddlers from the standard corrupt politicians without being hypocrites.

+1

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

A good compromise would be a caption "Denny Hastrt - Speaker and Child Molester"

[Mercenary]

Removing it is good. It isnt changing history, it is just showing that when you do certain things you lose any right to be honored for your "service" to your country.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I completely agree with Classic Conservative. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the hush money part either.

I guarantee you that you have never been more wrong in your life.

It is commonsense that structuring should not be a crime when no other crime bring committed let alone when they are a victim of other crimes. What good does taking this case do? It's utter silliness, and they are only doing it as statutes expired for other crimes.

[Zioneer]

I'm pretty sure we can separate the kiddy-diddlers from the standard corrupt politicians without being hypocrites.

Yes, and one of the differences is that Henry Clay being a slaveholder (which I think is the comparison being made?) wasn't universally seen as bad back when he was Speaker. It was bad, but the social morality of his day was conflicted on it. Plus, his attempts to save the Union were at least worthy of respect. But in 2015, I think everyone is united in saying that Hastert is a pedophile and that being a pedophile is wrong.