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« on: November 04, 2015, 09:21:34 AM »

http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/federal-health-officials-approve-montana-medicaid-waiver/article_7959fcaa-5c31-5cab-bb83-9de3fbba1be1.html


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kentucky-governor-conway-bevin-obamacare_5638f8e2e4b079a43c04cea6
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2015, 07:06:18 PM »

Disgusting at that Kentucky news.

Wouldn't mind seeing Obama drone Bevin for this act of what should be considered outright treason.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2015, 10:20:10 PM »

Good work Bevin
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2015, 10:33:05 PM »


Why is this a good thing? I really want to see you try to defend this.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2015, 07:15:53 AM »

Matt Bevin will be the best Governor in the History of the Modern Politcal System!!!
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2015, 07:17:31 AM »

Matt Bevin will be the best Governor in the History of the Modern Politcal System!!!

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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2015, 08:25:19 AM »

Republicans are so happy with ruining the life of the poor, who will have no health care without Obamacare.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2015, 01:35:34 PM »

Republicans are so happy with ruining the life of the poor, who will have no health care without Obamacare.

This is a prime example of how economic conservatism can be just as bad as, if not worse than, social conservatism.
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2015, 08:26:32 PM »

Republicans are so happy with ruining the life of the poor, who will have no health care without Obamacare.
Not me.  I just don't think Obamacare is the way to provide healthcare for everyone.
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2015, 11:20:34 PM »

Six months from now:  "Gosh damn that n***er president right to heck for takin' away my Obamacayer.  And right when I gots myself the lung dust!  *cough cough hack*  Welp, I giss I'm voting Republican this time..."
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2015, 04:03:17 PM »

Bevin Already Hedging His Obamacare Repeal Pledge

November 6, 2015By Sara Goddard4 Comments
Politico: “Matt Bevin won the Kentucky governorship on a vow to dismantle Obamacare, but the obstacles he faces rolling back a law that covers nearly one in 10 Kentuckians offers a preview of the struggles that a Republican president would face living up to a ‘repeal and replace’ pledge in 2017.”

“Even before the votes were cast, Bevin had started hedging his repeal bet, saying he would not take coverage away from people who have it. He can give the health law in his state a more conservative veneer. But he can’t scrap it completely.”

“And if he tries to scale back Medicaid too much, he could crash into another complication: an obscure 1966 state law that requires the state to draw on all the federal dollars available for Medicaid. Advocates say any move to leave federal dollars untapped would likely lead to a lawsuit. The federal government is fully funding expansion through 2016, and will pay at least 90 percent in future years.”

“’The ultimate lesson here … is that because so many people have gained coverage already through the Affordable Care Act that legislation is a whole lot more resilient than the rhetoric you hear from its opponents.’”
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2015, 08:10:20 PM »

Some of the more reasonable approaches for conservatives are:

1. compel users of subsidized medicine to adopt healthier lifestyles. Add exercise, cut back on fats and sugar... and give up the smokes!

2. get those using subsidized care to take job training if those getting the equivalent of Obamacare  if they are underemployed.

3. drug testing.

4. limit alcohol purchases.

5. push weight-loss programs for the obese.

Try to make it a win-win proposition. Healthy people cost less to insure for health.   
 
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2015, 10:07:07 PM »

Matt Bevin will be the best Governor in the History of the Modern Politcal System!!!

LOL you can't be serious
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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2015, 04:45:22 PM »

Matt Bevin will be the best Governor in the History of the Modern Politcal System!!!

LOL you can't be serious

He'll be better than a lot of current Dem or GOP governors.


Reasons why I like and will defend Bevin (besides the R label)

1. He'll fight against obamacare in his state (full repeal comes when GOP wins 2016)
2. He irks some in the GOP leadership by being a Rand Paul ally
3. His pick of a Lt. Gov. Demi's can't use the race card.
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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2015, 05:08:06 PM »

My favorite of JCL'S reasons for why Bevin will be the best governor is his third one. Bevin won't need to address any of the issues that face the African American community or any other minorities because his lieutenant governor is black.
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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2015, 06:56:12 PM »

Matt Bevin will be the best Governor in the History of the Modern Politcal System!!!

LOL you can't be serious

He'll be better than a lot of current Dem or GOP governors.


Reasons why I like and will defend Bevin (besides the R label)

1. He'll fight against obamacare in his state (full repeal comes when GOP wins 2016)
2. He irks some in the GOP leadership by being a Rand Paul ally
3. His pick of a Lt. Gov. Demi's can't use the race card.

Yea', How dare people have healthcare, freedom and liberty am I right?
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« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2015, 08:00:22 PM »

Matt Bevin will be the best Governor in the History of the Modern Politcal System!!!

LOL you can't be serious

He'll be better than a lot of current Dem or GOP governors.


Reasons why I like and will defend Bevin (besides the R label)

1. He'll fight against obamacare in his state (full repeal comes when GOP wins 2016)
2. He irks some in the GOP leadership by being a Rand Paul ally
3. His pick of a Lt. Gov. Demi's can't use the race card.

lol good luck winning in 2016, much less repealing obamacare

actually, do that - once you do, the large number of now uninsured will come out in 2018 and 2020 to destroy the GOP as a party forever
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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2015, 02:58:00 PM »

Six months from now:  "Gosh damn that n***er president right to heck for takin' away my Obamacayer.  And right when I gots myself the lung dust!  *cough cough hack*  Welp, I giss I'm voting Republican this time..."
The reasoning behind comments like this one, which show an insane amount of Democratic working-class hatred, is exactly the reason why the majority in Kentucky voted Republican.
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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2015, 03:02:09 PM »

Six months from now:  "Gosh damn that n***er president right to heck for takin' away my Obamacayer.  And right when I gots myself the lung dust!  *cough cough hack*  Welp, I giss I'm voting Republican this time..."
The reasoning behind comments like this one, which show an insane amount of Democratic working-class hatred, is exactly the reason why the majority in Kentucky voted Republican.

Did you and I read the same comment?

I don't think so, because there's no working-class hatred, let alone insane amounts of it.
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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2015, 03:03:36 PM »

Six months from now:  "Gosh damn that n***er president right to heck for takin' away my Obamacayer.  And right when I gots myself the lung dust!  *cough cough hack*  Welp, I giss I'm voting Republican this time..."
The reasoning behind comments like this one, which show an insane amount of Democratic working-class hatred, is exactly the reason why the majority in Kentucky voted Republican.

Working class hatred?  Not really.  Ignorant hillbilly hatred?  Absolutely.  The GOP is welcome to keep that core part of its base.
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2015, 07:18:13 PM »

Matt Bevin will be the best Governor in the History of the Modern Politcal System!!!

Why are You capitalizing Random Words?
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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2015, 11:49:55 AM »

Republicans could raise taxes on alcohol and tobacco in Kentucky and dedicate the funds so raised to the healthcare system. Increase fines for moving violations, drug-law violations, and spouse abuse. Should marijuana be legalized, then tax it heavily.

"Abuser pays" is good public policy.

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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2015, 05:07:08 PM »

Matt Bevin will be the best Governor in the History of the Modern Politcal System!!!

Why are You capitalizing Random Words?

Parochial education.
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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2015, 05:18:00 PM »

Matt Bevin will be the best Governor in the History of the Modern Politcal System!!!

Why are You capitalizing Random Words?

Common Core.
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