Is hardcore or metal more popular in your city?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I got into an argument about this on AAD, where I made a map of my estimation of states based on which was more popular, and the consensus of everyone else seemed to be that metal would win everywhere except maybe DC and South Dakota.

But in Minneapolis? Hardcore, easily.

[DavidB.]

Hardcore, probably, but since I don't chill with bad-smelling stoner hippies and also not with aggressive far-right Dutch nationalists with bald heads who pop MDMA every week, I know no people in my city who belong to either of those "groups". I actually like some metal, and I actually like some hardcore, but their fan base... not so much, generally.

But I think this might be very specific to each country.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Hardcore, probably, but since I don't chill with bad-smelling stoner hippies and also not with aggressive far-right Dutch nationalists with bald heads who pop MDMA every week, I know no people in my city who belong to either of those "groups". I actually like some metal, and I actually like some hardcore, but their fan base... not so much, generally.

But I think this might be very specific to each country.

That doesn't sound like hardcore fans at all. For example here's a Dutch hardcore band:

[DavidB.]

Well, you're right: that was the description of Dutch metal fans.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Well, you're right: that was the description of Dutch metal fans.

Well that description sure doesn't fit hardcore fans either, who are predominately SJW.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Don't know.  Don't care.  Even if I did care, popularity isn't what makes music good.

[DavidB.]

Well that description sure doesn't fit hardcore fans either, who are predominately SJW.

Hardcore fans in the Netherlands are definitely not SJW. In fact you're the first one who made me familiar with the concept of SJW hardcore fans.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Well that description sure doesn't fit hardcore fans either, who are predominately SJW.

Hardcore fans in the Netherlands are definitely not SJW. In fact you're the first one who made me familiar with the concept of SJW hardcore fans.

Huh? This is the most well known Dutch hardcore band of the 90s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manliftingbanner

[Goldwater]

I honestly have no idea. Probably metal, but that is just a guess.

[DavidB.]

Huh? This is the most well known Dutch hardcore band of the 90s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manliftingbanner

Well, it could be that this is well-known in an alternative scene, and such a scene could probably exist in the Netherlands (read: in Amsterdam) as well, but >95% of hardcore fans in the Netherlands is like the opposite of this, ideologically as well as in terms of personal lifestyle.

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

Don't know.  Don't care. 

[Mr. Illini]

Strongly dislike both; no visible following of either in my area

[traininthedistance]

Metal is more popular, but if you defined your terms as "punk" versus, say, "death metal" you would get the opposite answer.  Like I said on AAD, you're not making an apples-to-apples comparison here.

[The Free North]

What is hardcore?

[Crumpets]

What is the difference between hardcore and metal? I generally think of metal as a genre which includes hardcore. Anyways, to answer your question, grunge.

[bedstuy]

What is an objective way to measure?

Concert sales?  Album sales?

Metallica probably makes more money on a US tour than every hardcore band put together for 5 years.

[Boris]

Yeah, I have no idea where BRTD is coming from. Mainstream metal bands such as Iron Maiden and Metallica would play at venues such as TCF bank stadium. I think a more interesting question would be to compare hardcore to more specific genres of 'metal' with little mainstream exposure. For example, Maryland Deathfest (death metal obviously) draws about 4K in attendance per year. Do 'hardcore' festivals draw similar attendance?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I think Dude Fest sold out each year I went with something like 300 tickets.

But that's hardly the biggest hardcore fest. Plus think of all the hardcore bands on the Warped Tour.