Stronach crosses floor to join Liberals

[Hatman 🍁]

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/05/17/stronach-liberals050517.html

This is truly amazing! The tories can kiss ever winning a majority in the future with this moderate gone. My only beef is,  her vote will be in favour of the budget (i.e. non confidence vote) and the chances of us going to the polls this summer decreases. This is certainly surprising that someone would *join* the Liberals when they're down in the polls.

[Gabu]

That was rather unexpected.

I wonder if her sweetheart MacKay will follow suit?

[Hatman 🍁]

That was rather unexpected.

I wonder if her sweetheart MacKay will follow suit?

Not likely. I am betting this would effect their relationship though
Peter MacKay, while moderate- is not as moderate as Belinda (he voted against Same-sex marriage) so I think he will stay.

[Gabu]

I'm sorta torn on my opinion of this.  On one hand, I'm happy to have her in the party, but on another hand, this basically means that she has no chance whatsoever of ever being leader of the Conservative Party now, which is really too bad.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Maybe she sleeping with Bill Clinton again.

[Hatman 🍁]

I'm sorta torn on my opinion of this.  On one hand, I'm happy to have her in the party, but on another hand, this basically means that she has no chance whatsoever of ever being leader of the Conservative Party now, which is really too bad.

My sentiments exactly. Plus, we may not be going to the polls now.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Not all that suprising. Interesting there's rumours that one or two Liberal M.P's might go the other way.

[Hatman 🍁]

Not all that suprising. Interesting there's rumours that one or two Liberal M.P's might go the other way.

There were. David Kilgour became an independent, and the other guy had a press conference saying he was sticking around. Now I am hearing rumours that Loyola Hearn, a Stronach supporter may join Belinda, but I doubt it.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I almost cried when I saw this thread.   Every time a moderate betrays one party for another, it loses credibility for those moderates that are left.  My sympathies are no longer for Ms. Stronanch, they now reside with moderate members of the CPC that will have to account for this loss.

[Siege40]

Stronach is a joke, not because of her politics, but her behaviour, a freshmen MP won't be a Leader anytime soon. With no political experience she nearly became leader of the Tories, and her talk lead some to believe she was preparing for another run at leadership. My hope is that she loses her seat regardless of her party affiliation.

Siege

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

*gasp*

She was a light of liberty in a party that has a few dark spots, namely its dimwit leader Stephen Harper.   She would have made a much better, more inclusive leader for a new party.

Stronach is a joke, not because of her politics, but her behaviour, a freshmen MP won't be a Leader anytime soon. With no political experience she nearly became leader of the Tories, and her talk lead some to believe she was preparing for another run at leadership. My hope is that she loses her seat regardless of her party affiliation.

Siege

[Siege40]

Stephen Harper is indicative of Canadian Conservative Party, and is experienced and a relatively good politician. Belinda Stronach is holding her first political office... ever...

Siege

[Hatman 🍁]

Stephen Harper is indicative of Canadian Conservative Party, and is experienced and a relatively good politician. Belinda Stronach is holding her first political office... ever...

Siege

Brian Mulroney was elected leader with no experience. Ms. Stronach is exactly what this country needs. I think you're just afraid of a woman being Prime Minister.

[Siege40]

Indeed, women are the real problem, I don't know why we even let them vote.

Even if Stronach has no experience, knowledge of the political system, or public experience, she deserves to be PM!

Siege

[Hatman 🍁]

Indeed, women are the real problem, I don't know why we even let them vote.

Even if Stronach has no experience, knowledge of the political system, or public experience, she deserves to be PM!

Siege

Just because she is a woman doesn't mean she doesnt have any knowledge of the political system. Of that she has tons. She may not have much experience, but she now has an infinite more experience than Mulroney had when he became Prime Minister.  Her moderate views would have saved the Conservatives, and her breath of fresh air is what will save the Liberals in the long term.

[Siege40]

Indeed, women are the real problem, I don't know why we even let them vote.

Even if Stronach has no experience, knowledge of the political system, or public experience, she deserves to be PM!

Siege

Just because she is a woman doesn't mean she doesnt have any knowledge of the political system. Of that she has tons. She may not have much experience, but she now has an infinite more experience than Mulroney had when he became Prime Minister.  Her moderate views would have saved the Conservatives, and her breath of fresh air is what will save the Liberals in the long term.

I wish I could remember the specific event, but Stronach at one time did not know a basic procedural motion of the House. It had something to do with a vote I believe.

Holding up Brian Mulroney isn't really great either, I don't like Brian Mulroney, and it isn't a good defense since I dislike his Prime Ministership and he was also inexperienced. Experience matters even on some local or provincial level. Some is always better than none at all.

Siege

[Notre Dame rules!]

I was rather hoping that the liberals would lose the no confidence vote while the Queen was in-country

[Hatman 🍁]

Indeed, women are the real problem, I don't know why we even let them vote.

Even if Stronach has no experience, knowledge of the political system, or public experience, she deserves to be PM!

Siege

Just because she is a woman doesn't mean she doesnt have any knowledge of the political system. Of that she has tons. She may not have much experience, but she now has an infinite more experience than Mulroney had when he became Prime Minister.  Her moderate views would have saved the Conservatives, and her breath of fresh air is what will save the Liberals in the long term.

I wish I could remember the specific event, but Stronach at one time did not know a basic procedural motion of the House. It had something to do with a vote I believe.

Holding up Brian Mulroney isn't really great either, I don't like Brian Mulroney, and it isn't a good defense since I dislike his Prime Ministership and he was also inexperienced. Experience matters even on some local or provincial level. Some is always better than none at all.

Siege

Obviously, Liberals don't like Mulroney, and I am in that boat. But it wasn't his lack of experience that made him a bad Prime Minister. Belinda knows the ropes now, and I hope she's our Prime Minister one day.

[Hatman 🍁]

I was rather hoping that the liberals would lose the no confidence vote while the Queen was in-country

I heard somewhere that the Queen can't be in the country during an election campaign.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

I hope she "pulls a Churchill".  She flirts with the liberals, comes back to the CPC, becomes its leader, and becomes the greatest prime minister ever

Indeed, women are the real problem, I don't know why we even let them vote.

Even if Stronach has no experience, knowledge of the political system, or public experience, she deserves to be PM!

Siege

Just because she is a woman doesn't mean she doesnt have any knowledge of the political system. Of that she has tons. She may not have much experience, but she now has an infinite more experience than Mulroney had when he became Prime Minister.  Her moderate views would have saved the Conservatives, and her breath of fresh air is what will save the Liberals in the long term.

I wish I could remember the specific event, but Stronach at one time did not know a basic procedural motion of the House. It had something to do with a vote I believe.

Holding up Brian Mulroney isn't really great either, I don't like Brian Mulroney, and it isn't a good defense since I dislike his Prime Ministership and he was also inexperienced. Experience matters even on some local or provincial level. Some is always better than none at all.

Siege

Obviously, Liberals don't like Mulroney, and I am in that boat. But it wasn't his lack of experience that made him a bad Prime Minister. Belinda knows the ropes now, and I hope she's our Prime Minister one day.

[Hatman 🍁]

I hope she "pulls a Churchill".  She flirts with the liberals, comes back to the CPC, becomes its leader, and becomes the greatest prime minister ever

Indeed, women are the real problem, I don't know why we even let them vote.

Even if Stronach has no experience, knowledge of the political system, or public experience, she deserves to be PM!

Siege

Just because she is a woman doesn't mean she doesnt have any knowledge of the political system. Of that she has tons. She may not have much experience, but she now has an infinite more experience than Mulroney had when he became Prime Minister.  Her moderate views would have saved the Conservatives, and her breath of fresh air is what will save the Liberals in the long term.

I wish I could remember the specific event, but Stronach at one time did not know a basic procedural motion of the House. It had something to do with a vote I believe.

Holding up Brian Mulroney isn't really great either, I don't like Brian Mulroney, and it isn't a good defense since I dislike his Prime Ministership and he was also inexperienced. Experience matters even on some local or provincial level. Some is always better than none at all.

Siege

Obviously, Liberals don't like Mulroney, and I am in that boat. But it wasn't his lack of experience that made him a bad Prime Minister. Belinda knows the ropes now, and I hope she's our Prime Minister one day.

Well, there's no question that whatever party she's the leader of- she will be the best PM ever (except for maybe Trudeau)

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

[I heard somewhere that the Queen can't be in the country during an election campaign.

She does try to stay out of a country (other than the UK of course) during an election season so as to avoid having her visits drawn into electoral politics, but there is no requirement that she do so.

[2952-0-0]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, that's what I'm REALLY doing now!!! My mom is TOTALLY PISSED!!!!

[minionofmidas]

Wow. Well, after her dad ruined Austrian football forevermore, I guess she tried and failed to do the same to the Conservatives, and will now try it on the Liberals.

[Hatman 🍁]

Wow. Well, after her dad ruined Austrian football forevermore, I guess she tried and failed to do the same to the Conservatives, and will now try it on the Liberals.

What do you have against the lovely Ms. Stronach?