Do you support common core?

[Intell]

I have very little respect for people who oppose Common Core. It's one of those things where opposition signals that you're an ignorant who is easily swayed by rambling conspiracy theorists on the Internet.

Yea, because let's just take away the rights of students and teachers to learn at that classroom's pace. Because the government is better than the teacher in judging her students and what they need to learn. Standardized Testing is also BS, because you spend months studying for a test, while learning nothing.

[King]

I have very little respect for people who oppose Common Core. It's one of those things where opposition signals that you're an ignorant who is easily swayed by rambling conspiracy theorists on the Internet.

Yea, because let's just take away the rights of students and teachers to learn at that classroom's pace. Because the government is better than the teacher in judging her students and what they need to learn. Standardized Testing is also BS, because you spend months studying for a test, while learning nothing.

Students don't have rights and employees have to do what their employer says.

[Famous Mortimer]

I have very little respect for people who oppose Common Core. It's one of those things where opposition signals that you're an ignorant who is easily swayed by rambling conspiracy theorists on the Internet.

Yea, because let's just take away the rights of students and teachers to learn at that classroom's pace. Because the government is better than the teacher in judging her students and what they need to learn. Standardized Testing is also BS, because you spend months studying for a test, while learning nothing.

Concerns about "teaching the test" are so stupid. Every test has to be taught for. Or do you propose testing people on random information they never learned? Or do you oppose tests in general? How will we know if people are qualified or not, if we just give everyone a gold star for attendance.

[Extrabase500]

I have very little respect for people who oppose Common Core. It's one of those things where opposition signals that you're an ignorant who is easily swayed by rambling conspiracy theorists on the Internet.

Yea, because let's just take away the rights of students and teachers to learn at that classroom's pace. Because the government is better than the teacher in judging her students and what they need to learn. Standardized Testing is also BS, because you spend months studying for a test, while learning nothing.

Concerns about "teaching the test" are so stupid. Every test has to be taught for. Or do you propose testing people on random information they never learned? Or do you oppose tests in general? How will we know if people are qualified or not, if we just give everyone a gold star for attendance.

Lol. Standardized testing is PROVEN to be a failure.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I have very little respect for people who oppose Common Core. It's one of those things where opposition signals that you're an ignorant who is easily swayed by rambling conspiracy theorists on the Internet.

Yea, because let's just take away the rights of students and teachers to learn at that classroom's pace. Because the government is better than the teacher in judging her students and what they need to learn. Standardized Testing is also BS, because you spend months studying for a test, while learning nothing.

Concerns about "teaching the test" are so stupid. Every test has to be taught for. Or do you propose testing people on random information they never learned? Or do you oppose tests in general? How will we know if people are qualified or not, if we just give everyone a gold star for attendance.

Actually they are extraordinarily legitimate concerns. Schools that teach to a test learn absolutely nothing. America is at a loss for critical thought. The vast majority of honors students have little ability to analyze anything in depth, fail to intuitively understand what they are actually doing (just repeatedly following "a process"), and are very poor at developing original and creative thoughts. The education system is a joke, and it is because we give everyone a gold star for attendance. That's what these tests do. Even in college, grade inflation had made getting an A absolutely meaningless. People don't know how to think in the abstract. Only to repeat exactly as they are shown. And I ironically repeat - that is just the elite students. Can you imagine the other 95%?

(Please note, this is not necessarily an indictment of the thread topic.)

[TJ in Oregon]

No, but I would support it if federal money wasn't attached. I have nothing against the idea of states coming together to write a common curriculum, but if it is truly state-led, as its proponents would defend, the federal government ought to be neutral to its implementation.

[Famous Mortimer]

No, but I would support it if federal money wasn't attached. I have nothing against the idea of states coming together to write a common curriculum, but if it is truly state-led, as its proponents would defend, the federal government ought to be neutral to its implementation.

Again, 2+2 does not change based on what state you're in. Why should it be taught differently by state? You're just knee jerk opposing something because it involves the federal government but the federal government's involvement is totally rational and justified. Also, it would lead to less bureaucracy. You're literally proposing 50 different systems all at once vs. a single one.

[Extrabase500]

Common core is teaching kids (well public education in general) to be complete dumbed down idiots who can barley even talk.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Yes (Right-Wing)

Common core is teaching kids (well public education in general) to be complete dumbed down idiots who can barley even talk.

Which one of the standards does this?

[Extrabase500]

Yes (Right-Wing)

Common core is teaching kids (well public education in general) to be complete dumbed down idiots who can barley even talk.

Which one of the standards does this?

http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/tag/225/

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/22What-Parents-Rail-Against-Common-Core-Math-259363861.html

Welcome to "Obamas" America.

[Intell]

Yes (Right-Wing)

Common core is teaching kids (well public education in general) to be complete dumbed down idiots who can barley even talk.

Which one of the standards does this?

http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/tag/225/

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/22What-Parents-Rail-Against-Common-Core-Math-259363861.html

Welcome to "Obamas" America.

Because bush didn't do anything like this..

[Extrabase500]

Yes (Right-Wing)

Common core is teaching kids (well public education in general) to be complete dumbed down idiots who can barley even talk.

Which one of the standards does this?

http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/tag/225/

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/22What-Parents-Rail-Against-Common-Core-Math-259363861.html

Welcome to "Obamas" America.

Because bush didn't do anything like this..

Bush did and was a total failure. No child left behind is a total scam. I just say welcome to "Obamas" America because he's the current puppet in charge.

[Del Tachi]

Yes (right-wing)

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Yes (Right-Wing)

Common core is teaching kids (well public education in general) to be complete dumbed down idiots who can barley even talk.

Which one of the standards does this?

http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/tag/225/

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/22What-Parents-Rail-Against-Common-Core-Math-259363861.html

Welcome to "Obamas" America.

No, not propaganda or misinformed media reports, an actual standard.  Which one of the standards at http://www.corestandards.org/read-the-standards/ do you have a problem with?

Common Core was an initiative of the National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers.  President Obama is not a member of either of those organizations.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

I support the concept, but not the implementation.  While I believe that there needs to be some federal oversight of education, I generally believe that standards should be handled by states.  I certainly don't get all uptight about it like a lot of right-wingers do, and I honestly don't understand what all the fuss is about.