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Question: We should not, in our own country, allow patriotism to become blind nationalism
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#2
Agree
 
#3
Disagree
 
#4
Strongly Disagree
 
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Total Voters: 39

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« on: November 07, 2015, 06:00:11 PM »

1. Strongly Agree. 71/29, 54/16/15/15
2. Agree. 52/48, 43/10/26/21
3. Disagree. 21/79, 4/17/38/42
4. Strongly Agree. 70/30, 55/14/14/16
5. Strongly Agree. 87/13, 58/28/5/8
6. Strongly Agree. 87/13, 60/27/7/7
7. Agree. 71/29, 37/33/20/10
8. Disagree. 40/60, 12/29/27/33
9. Strongly Agree. 71/29, 51/20/20/9
10. Agree. 55/45, 29/27/16/29
11. Disagree. 20/80, 11/8/33/48
12. Strongly Agree. 75/25, 58/17/15/10
13. Disagree. 37/63, 25/12/19/44
14. Disagree. 49/51, 26/23/40/12
15. Disagree. 37.5/62.5, 8/29/44/19
16. Disagree. 37/63, 27/10/31/32
17. Agree. 58/42, 11/47/22/20
18. Disagree. 41/59, 26/15/22/37
19. Strongly Disagree. 22/78, 15/7/22/57
20. Agree. 61/39, 14/47/18/20
21. Agree. 79/21, 42/37.5/17/4
22. Disagree. 35/65, 17/17/33/33
23. Strongly Agree. 66/34, 50/16/26/8
25. Strongly Agree. 77/23, 65/12/12/12
26. Agree. 64/36, 25/40/19/17
27. Strongly Disagree. 16/84, 6/10/20/64
28. Strongly Disagree. 30/70, 16/14/18/52
29. Strongly Disagree. 9/91, 9/0/13/78
30. Strongly Disagree. 22/78, 12/10/24/54
31. Agree. 67/33, 26/42/16/16
32. Agree. 76/24, 32/43/16/8
33. Disagree. 38/62, 10/28/36/26

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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2015, 06:14:05 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2015, 06:14:59 PM »

Agree
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2015, 06:16:49 PM »

Agree, even though some people might accuse me of being one. Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2015, 07:33:03 PM »

Strongly Agree.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2015, 07:34:35 PM »

Disagree, Nationalism is not necessarily bad.
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2015, 10:12:31 AM »

Agree, assuming by nationalism, you mean NF/BNP/Jobbik-style nationalism.
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2015, 10:22:18 AM »

Well that isn't a loaded question. Not that I don't agree, because nationalism leads to absurdity, but still...
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2015, 10:43:20 AM »

Patriotism is dumb, and so is nationalism.

Why should I be proud of the fact that an accident of birth placed me in the US rather than Canada? Why should I think that people here are any better than people anywhere else? The real fact of the matter is that the average person has less in common with the wealthy people of their 'own' country than they do with people elsewhere. I might be just as 'American' as Donald Trump, but I know for a fact that I have far more in common with a Canadian worker than I do with him. Working people have no country.
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2015, 11:15:59 AM »
« Edited: November 08, 2015, 11:55:28 AM by DavidB. »

What the hell is the difference between patriotism and nationalism? Nationalism being somewhat more "extreme", it seems, but what defines this difference?

Also, fixed that for me:
Why should I be proud of the fact that an accident of birth placed me in the US the Netherlands rather than Canada? Why should I think that people here are any better than people anywhere else? The real fact of the matter is that the average person Jew has less in common with the wealthy random people of their 'own' country than they do with people Jews elsewhere. I might be just as 'American' as Donald Trump 'Dutch' as Geert Wilders, but I know for a fact that I have far more in common with a Canadian worker Jew than I do with him. Working people have no country. Jews only have one country.

Nonetheless, I'm absolutely not anti-nationalist in general and I voted "strongly disagree". I just don't think it makes much sense to be much of a nationalist as a Jew for a country other than Israel. Doesn't mean that I cannot feel deeply connected to the country where I grew up and still live. I like my country very much, it could be the best country in the world to live in, but I could have been born in Canada or the US and hold exactly the same values as I do now.
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