Should Christian denominations refuse to accept converts from Judaism?

[they don't love you like i love you]

Of course not, and I don't think anyone who has argued that proselytization to Jews is any worse than any other type of proselytization has considered that this is the only logical conclusion, which creates all sorts of issues and that fundamentally it's an anti-Semitic policy ("We have a social grouping here, and membership is open to all people who are interested in joining...except for Jews.")

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

No, and practically nobody but you thinks that this is the 'only logical conclusion' to saying that it's in poor taste for them to actively proselytize.

[TJ in Oregon]

No, what would even prompt such a question? Surely our friends on the Sola Scriptura side of things didn't find that in the Acts of the Apostles.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

No, what would even prompt such a question? Surely our friends on the Sola Scriptura side of things didn't find that in the Acts of the Apostles.

BRTD is taking some Jewish posters' statements to the effect that proselytizing Jewish people is in poor taste to a ridiculous extreme. Sasuga BRTD.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

No, what would even prompt such a question? Surely our friends on the Sola Scriptura side of things didn't find that in the Acts of the Apostles.

I sure don't. (I'm marrying a girl who has Jewish family roots but many of them believe Jesus is Messiah)

[DavidB.]

No, and practically nobody but you thinks that this is the 'only logical conclusion' to saying that it's in poor taste for them to actively proselytize.

Nailed it. I couldn't have said it better.

This poll probably relates to my comments in the thread on proselytization, but I never argued that Christians should refuse these people; however, they shouldn't actively engage in proselytization efforts among Christians.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

The Jewish converts were the first Christians.

[RFayette]

No, and practically nobody but you thinks that this is the 'only logical conclusion' to saying that it's in poor taste for them to actively proselytize.

Nailed it. I couldn't have said it better.

This poll probably relates to my comments in the thread on proselytization, but I never argued that Christians should refuse these people; however, they shouldn't actively engage in proselytization efforts among Christians.

The first folks that the early Christians prosletyzed were fellow Jews, so I don't see why we shouldn't continue this practice today.  The Gospel applies to the whole world.

[H. Ross Peron]

Accidentally voted yes but meant no considering how Christianity started.

[DavidB.]

The first folks that the early Christians prosletyzed were fellow Jews, so I don't see why we shouldn't continue this practice today.  The Gospel applies to the whole world.

Are you really going on with this, dude? Question: do you simply lack any knowledge of the history of Judaism in Europe, which is characterized by a quasi-continuous pattern of Christian oppression in which Jews had it "good" when they were treated as second-class people (only because they were necessary for the rulers/for trade) and bad when they were simply killed or deported? Many Jews remember this vividly, some of them have lived it. Some of my family who are still alive have lived it.

If you do have knowledge of this history, then you just don't care about this history and seek to perpetuate this pattern of injustice, which is quite mindboggling and immoral. In that case I can proudly say that my people is currently in a process of becoming stronger than ever before, and numerous organizations are active in bringing Jews back to Judaism, as opposed to leading them astray.

[RFayette]

The first folks that the early Christians prosletyzed were fellow Jews, so I don't see why we shouldn't continue this practice today.  The Gospel applies to the whole world.

Are you really going on with this, dude? Question: do you simply lack any knowledge of the history of Judaism in Europe, which is characterized by a quasi-continuous pattern of Christian oppression in which Jews had it "good" when they were treated as second-class people (only because they were necessary for the rulers/for trade) and bad when they were simply killed or deported? Many Jews remember this vividly, some of them have lived it. Some of my family who are still alive have lived it.

If you do have knowledge of this history, then you just don't care about this history and seek to perpetuate this pattern of injustice, which is quite mindboggling and immoral. In that case I can proudly say that my people is currently in a process of becoming stronger than ever before, and numerous organizations are active in bringing Jews back to Judaism, as opposed to leading them astray.

I know about the treatment many so-called Christians in Europe  dealt to the Jews, but that doesn't negate my main point:  a basic fundamental point of Christianity is that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven:   "I am the way, the truth, and the life.  No man cometh unto the Father, but by me" (John 14:6).  I completely agree that those Europeans who oppressed the Jews were absolutely in the wrong, but I believe that proselytizing to Jews is just as much of a Biblical imperative as proselytizing to any other group.   I don't see how my belief that Christians should lovingly present the Gospel to the Jewish people means that I am somehow defending past injustices against Jews.  We're talking about two completely different things, and your implication that I am being "immoral" or somehow supporting past injustices by believing in the Great Commission is just baloney. 

Look, the difference comes down to our worldview.  I believe the Bible, in the Old and New Testaments, is the word of God.  As such, I believe in the duty of the Great Commission as described in the New Testament, and I also believe that those who knowingly reject the Gospel of Jesus Christ will not inherit eternal life.  So yes, I don't consider proselytizing to Jews to be evil, and I hope you accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. 

[Intell]

Obviously not, but they really should stop trying to change Indian culture and Nepalese culture and stop mass proselytize everyone, wherever in the world.

[Famous Mortimer]

Acknowledging the Holocaust and past antisemitism has nothing to do with trying to get Jews to voluntarily convert of their own free will.

[Clark Kent]

Obviously not, but they really should stop trying to change Indian culture and Nepalese culture and stop mass proselytize everyone, wherever in the world.

Why?

[DavidB.]

Why?

Because it's kinda neocolonialist and disrespectful.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

If you are of the belief that people need saving, it's downright immoral not to "save" them though.

Although I do think the world's cultural heritage is weakened by the loss of interesting local and ancient religions in favour of Salafi Islam and boilerplate evangelical Christianity, the McDonalds of religions.

[DavidB.]

Although I do think the world's cultural heritage is weakened by the loss of interesting local and ancient religions in favour of Salafi Islam and boilerplate evangelical Christianity, the McDonalds of religions.

Agree, though it has probably been inevitable due to globalization

[they don't love you like i love you]

If you are of the belief that people need saving, it's downright immoral not to "save" them though.

Although I do think the world's cultural heritage is weakened by the loss of interesting local and ancient religions in favour of Salafi Islam and boilerplate evangelical Christianity, the McDonalds of religions.

Evangelical Christianity is hardly uniform in any way, you're thinking of the megachurch type stuff obviously, but a lot is more equivalent to a recently opened but still independent and unique restaurant.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

More like the sort of coffee shops that are designed to look like Independents but which are actually owned by Costa, Starbucks or whoever.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

If you are of the belief that people need saving, it's downright immoral not to "save" them though.

Although I do think the world's cultural heritage is weakened by the loss of interesting local and ancient religions in favour of Salafi Islam and boilerplate evangelical Christianity, the McDonalds of religions.

Evangelical Christianity is hardly uniform in any way, you're thinking of the megachurch type stuff obviously, but a lot is more equivalent to a recently opened but still independent and unique restaurant.

No she's directly referring to your form under that umbrella too. Surely not the worst offender, but CrabCake expresses my views on the matter flawlessly. Thank you fellow authoritarian.

[zs4321]

Why?

Because it's kinda neocolonialist and disrespectful.

So we should let them burn in Hell, so we don't hurt there feelings? makes sense...

[Vosem]

Saying that "the logical conclusion" of proselytization towards Jews being discouraged is refusal of Jews into the group is ridiculous, and there's a very easy counterexample: Judaism does not proselytize -- at all -- but it still embraces sincere converts.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Saying that "the logical conclusion" of proselytization towards Jews being discouraged is refusal of Jews into the group is ridiculous, and there's a very easy counterexample: Judaism does not proselytize -- at all -- but it still embraces sincere converts.

That's...actually a pretty good point.

[DavidB.]

So we should let them burn in Hell, so we don't hurt there feelings? makes sense...

The fact that you think everyone who doesn't believe the same as you will go to hell doesn't make it true, it only makes you a bigot.

[TJ in Oregon]

Whether someone is Jewish should be irrelevant to proselytization/missionary activity. The idea of specifically excluding Jews, even if it were desirable, would be unworkable. To consider why, picture a group handing out pamphlets about Jesus on the street corner (whether they are doing so respectfully or not is another matter). Just imagine them starting off by asking "Are you Jewish?" to whoever walks by and only giving them a pamphlet if they say no. This scenario would be incredibly silly.