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« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2015, 10:03:31 AM »

Bernie Sanders is not Barack Obama. 2016 is not 2008. She is going to the White House for two terms. Feel free to dig this post up in November 2020.

She wont run in 2020. The coming recession plus her 74 years of age will be the end of her presidency. Only question is, will the GOP have 300 House and 60 Senate members after 2018?
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« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2015, 10:04:32 AM »

I think you're right. It looks like Hillary has the nomination locked down. I take solace, however, in the fact that she is unelectable.

no she is electable. She is not re-eleactable
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« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2015, 10:33:59 AM »

Come on man, you know this is a silly comparison.  First, by this time in 2007, Obama was already out-raising Hillary, which Bernie Sanders has not done.  Furthermore, you conveniently leave out John Edwards's candidacy by only including that one-on-one matchup, which shows that Hillary's total base of support was smaller in 2007 than it is now.  Hillary gets similar levels of support now when faced with an array of opponents rather than just one as is put here.

Not to mention, Obama could appeal to a far larger portion of the Democratic base than Bernie Sanders' narrow sliver.
One could argue that there are more socialists in the Democratic party than African Americans.
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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2015, 01:01:50 PM »

Bernie Sanders is not Barack Obama. 2016 is not 2008. She is going to the White House for two terms. Feel free to dig this post up in November 2020.

Yes, so we can all have a good laugh.
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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2015, 01:25:40 PM »

Come on man, you know this is a silly comparison.  First, by this time in 2007, Obama was already out-raising Hillary, which Bernie Sanders has not done.  Furthermore, you conveniently leave out John Edwards's candidacy by only including that one-on-one matchup, which shows that Hillary's total base of support was smaller in 2007 than it is now.  Hillary gets similar levels of support now when faced with an array of opponents rather than just one as is put here.

Not to mention, Obama could appeal to a far larger portion of the Democratic base than Bernie Sanders' narrow sliver.
One could argue that there are more socialists in the Democratic party than African Americans.
One can argue any inane and categorically false thing one wants to.
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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2015, 03:52:40 PM »


It was sarcastic. Neither candidate is inevitable.
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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2015, 04:49:35 PM »


Wrong. 

Hillary Clinton is inevitable.  Deal with it.
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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2015, 09:56:47 PM »

Here is something to raise the spirits of Bernie Fans, IA polling expert Anne Seltzer discussing how Bernie still has a chance in IA.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/videos/2015-11-13/it-s-not-over-for-bernie-sanders-in-iowa-ann-selzer
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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2015, 10:12:42 PM »

Sanders is finished. I will still vote for him in the March 26 primary, but it is symbolic.
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« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2015, 03:11:23 PM »

Bernie Sanders is not Barack Obama. 2016 is not 2008. She is going to the White House for two terms. Feel free to dig this post up in November 2020.

Exactly.
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« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2015, 03:22:19 PM »

Look folks: this is a foreign policy election now, at least for the next couple of weeks, possibly the next couple of months. Sander whining about the evil billionaire class is going to look ridiculous and offensive at worst, quaint and un-presidential at best, when people are being slaughtered all around the world by ISIS. And he's not going to be able to keep his pacifistic, terrorist-coddling supporters in check. It's really looking like this is over now.
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« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2015, 03:26:09 PM »

Look folks: this is a foreign policy election now, at least for the next couple of weeks, possibly the next couple of months. Sander whining about the evil billionaire class is going to look ridiculous and offensive at worst, quaint and un-presidential at best, when people are being slaughtered all around the world by ISIS. And he's not going to be able to keep his pacifistic, terrorist-coddling supporters in check. It's really looking like this is over now.

Well, pick which side sounds better for preventing ISIS from existing.

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« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2015, 03:33:32 PM »

Huh? This election is about what is happening now, not what happened 12 years ago. Only a small fringe of Hillary-haters still care about this; as she said in the first debate, Obama trusted her enough to pick her as Secretary of State, despite her Iraq War vote.
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« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2015, 03:36:25 PM »

Huh? This election is about what is happening now, not what happened 12 years ago. Only a small fringe of Hillary-haters still care about this; as she said in the first debate, Obama trusted her enough to pick her as Secretary of State, despite her Iraq War vote.

ISIS wouldn't exist without her Iraq War. But don't worry, she's demonstrated she's a hawk plenty of times in the last 12 years as well.
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« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2015, 03:54:41 PM »

Huh? This election is about what is happening now, not what happened 12 years ago. Only a small fringe of Hillary-haters still care about this; as she said in the first debate, Obama trusted her enough to pick her as Secretary of State, despite her Iraq War vote.

ISIS wouldn't exist without her Iraq War. But don't worry, she's demonstrated she's a hawk plenty of times in the last 12 years as well.
'Her' Iraq war? Lol.
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« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2015, 04:00:50 PM »

Huh? This election is about what is happening now, not what happened 12 years ago. Only a small fringe of Hillary-haters still care about this; as she said in the first debate, Obama trusted her enough to pick her as Secretary of State, despite her Iraq War vote.

ISIS wouldn't exist without her Iraq War. But don't worry, she's demonstrated she's a hawk plenty of times in the last 12 years as well.
'Her' Iraq war? Lol.

Most of the Sandernistas were probably in diapers when the war happened.  Can't blame them for getting their history a little mixed up.
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« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2015, 04:03:40 PM »

Huh? This election is about what is happening now, not what happened 12 years ago. Only a small fringe of Hillary-haters still care about this; as she said in the first debate, Obama trusted her enough to pick her as Secretary of State, despite her Iraq War vote.

ISIS wouldn't exist without her Iraq War. But don't worry, she's demonstrated she's a hawk plenty of times in the last 12 years as well.
'Her' Iraq war? Lol.

Not only did she vote for it, she claimed there was an Iraq Al Qaeda connection that even Lieberman said wasn't proven. She was a definite cheerleader for war.
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« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2015, 04:20:16 PM »

Look folks: this is a foreign policy election now, at least for the next couple of weeks, possibly the next couple of months. Sander whining about the evil billionaire class is going to look ridiculous and offensive at worst, quaint and un-presidential at best, when people are being slaughtered all around the world by ISIS. And he's not going to be able to keep his pacifistic, terrorist-coddling supporters in check. It's really looking like this is over now.
This times a thousand.  The attack ads against Sanders when it comes to forgien policy right themselves.(In a general election of course.)

Here is an example I just made up on the spot.

(Ominous music throughout.)
The world is at a crossroads.  Across Europe men and women are being slaughtered.  Yet Bernie Sandars wants to cut our military to pay for massive increases in the welfare state.  Can we afford this now on the brink of war?  Will be caught unaware like we were in 1941.

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They all would be much better than that, but I just use it as an example.
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« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2015, 04:22:29 PM »

Look folks: this is a foreign policy election now, at least for the next couple of weeks, possibly the next couple of months. Sander whining about the evil billionaire class is going to look ridiculous and offensive at worst, quaint and un-presidential at best, when people are being slaughtered all around the world by ISIS. And he's not going to be able to keep his pacifistic, terrorist-coddling supporters in check. It's really looking like this is over now.
This times a thousand.  The attack ads against Sanders when it comes to forgien policy right themselves.(In a general election of course.)

Here is an example I just made up on the spot.

(Ominous music throughout.)
The world is at a crossroads.  Across Europe men and women are being slaughtered.  Yet Bernie Sandars wants to cut our military to pay for massive increases in the welfare state.  Can we afford this now on the brink of war?  Will be caught unaware like we were in 1941.

Paid for by Republican for president.

They all would be much better than that, but I just use it as an example.

Bernie became interested in politics because of his father's family being killed in the Holocaust. It's ridiculous to claim that he wouldn't protect against against another Hitler.
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« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2015, 04:27:59 PM »

Look folks: this is a foreign policy election now, at least for the next couple of weeks, possibly the next couple of months. Sander whining about the evil billionaire class is going to look ridiculous and offensive at worst, quaint and un-presidential at best, when people are being slaughtered all around the world by ISIS. And he's not going to be able to keep his pacifistic, terrorist-coddling supporters in check. It's really looking like this is over now.
This times a thousand.  The attack ads against Sanders when it comes to forgien policy right themselves.(In a general election of course.)

Here is an example I just made up on the spot.

(Ominous music throughout.)
The world is at a crossroads.  Across Europe men and women are being slaughtered.  Yet Bernie Sandars wants to cut our military to pay for massive increases in the welfare state.  Can we afford this now on the brink of war?  Will be caught unaware like we were in 1941.

Paid for by Republican for president.

They all would be much better than that, but I just use it as an example.

Bernie became interested in politics because of his father's family being killed in the Holocaust. It's ridiculous to claim that he wouldn't protect against against another Hitler.
I didn't say that at all.  I was just showing that is is not hard to attack him on policy in a general election.  Also remember fear mongering works, even if you don't want to believe it.
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« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2015, 04:28:44 PM »

Look folks: this is a foreign policy election now, at least for the next couple of weeks, possibly the next couple of months. Sander whining about the evil billionaire class is going to look ridiculous and offensive at worst, quaint and un-presidential at best, when people are being slaughtered all around the world by ISIS. And he's not going to be able to keep his pacifistic, terrorist-coddling supporters in check. It's really looking like this is over now.
This times a thousand.  The attack ads against Sanders when it comes to forgien policy right themselves.(In a general election of course.)

Here is an example I just made up on the spot.

(Ominous music throughout.)
The world is at a crossroads.  Across Europe men and women are being slaughtered.  Yet Bernie Sandars wants to cut our military to pay for massive increases in the welfare state.  Can we afford this now on the brink of war?  Will be caught unaware like we were in 1941.

Paid for by Republican for president.

They all would be much better than that, but I just use it as an example.

Bernie became interested in politics because of his father's family being killed in the Holocaust. It's ridiculous to claim that he wouldn't protect against against another Hitler.

Sanders was in favor of intervening in former Yugoslavia to stop genocide. The idea that he wouldn't act to prevent a genocide is abhorrent.
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« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2015, 04:35:31 PM »

Look folks: this is a foreign policy election now, at least for the next couple of weeks, possibly the next couple of months. Sander whining about the evil billionaire class is going to look ridiculous and offensive at worst, quaint and un-presidential at best, when people are being slaughtered all around the world by ISIS. And he's not going to be able to keep his pacifistic, terrorist-coddling supporters in check. It's really looking like this is over now.
This times a thousand.  The attack ads against Sanders when it comes to forgien policy right themselves.(In a general election of course.)

Here is an example I just made up on the spot.

(Ominous music throughout.)
The world is at a crossroads.  Across Europe men and women are being slaughtered.  Yet Bernie Sandars wants to cut our military to pay for massive increases in the welfare state.  Can we afford this now on the brink of war?  Will be caught unaware like we were in 1941.

Paid for by Republican for president.

They all would be much better than that, but I just use it as an example.

Bernie became interested in politics because of his father's family being killed in the Holocaust. It's ridiculous to claim that he wouldn't protect against against another Hitler.

Sanders was in favor of intervening in former Yugoslavia to stop genocide. The idea that he wouldn't act to prevent a genocide is abhorrent.
You are missing the point of the post.  It doesn't matter what he did in the past.  When it comes to security, Americans will always run from those who seem to weaken it.
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« Reply #47 on: November 16, 2015, 02:11:09 AM »

In the immortal words of opera fans everywhere, it aint over 'til the fat lady sings, and for Hillary, the fat lady's initials are F.B.I.
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« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2015, 02:18:03 AM »

I don't think the purpose of this post was to suggest that Sanders will definitely overtake Clinton in the way that Obama did. I think it was to show that even a large lead in November does not make it certain that Hillary will win. While Sanders has a very small chance of beating Clinton, it's not 0%.
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« Reply #49 on: November 16, 2015, 02:50:16 AM »

I don't think the purpose of this post was to suggest that Sanders will definitely overtake Clinton in the way that Obama did. I think it was to show that even a large lead in November does not make it certain that Hillary will win. While Sanders has a very small chance of beating Clinton, it's not 0%.

That's what I got out of the post as well (I agree with that sentiment).
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