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« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2005, 02:46:38 PM »

Hey -  the increase has to come from somewhere. I hope they don*t gain uniformly again...disproportionate gains from First Nations might put Athapasca (sp?) on the agenda...

Not sure about Athabasca. Fort McMurray dominates the riding, and while I've never been there or know much about the city, i think it's very conservative. I think the NDP would have to win more than 4 seats provincially to get more than 0 federally. By the way- all 4 NDP seats in Alberta are in Edmonton.
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« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2005, 02:51:09 PM »

You're probably right of course, I`m not denying that at all. You know that? Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2005, 03:17:48 PM »

You're probably right of course, I`m not denying that at all. You know that? Smiley

Rule #1: I'm always right Wink

So, do you have any predictions up your sleeve? I know the election is likely 10 months away, but it is still fun!
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« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2005, 06:05:12 PM »

Prediction: Despite the predictions of pundits and hopeful New Democrats such as myself the NDP only pick up 3 seats nation wide bringing them to 22.

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« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2005, 06:32:22 PM »

Prediction: Despite the predictions of pundits and hopeful New Democrats such as myself the NDP only pick up 3 seats nation wide bringing them to 22.

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That's quite possible, but if you look at the numbers, it would be difficult. Remember: the NDP lost 12 seats by less than 1,000 votes. Also, Paul Martin had a big influence in those 12 seats not going NDP. I think the NDP can easily win 30+ seats. Where it won't happen is every province but Ontario and B.C. and NWT. (and maybe Saskatchewan)
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« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2005, 09:29:43 PM »

Prediction: Despite the predictions of pundits and hopeful New Democrats such as myself the NDP only pick up 3 seats nation wide bringing them to 22.

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That's quite possible, but if you look at the numbers, it would be difficult. Remember: the NDP lost 12 seats by less than 1,000 votes. Also, Paul Martin had a big influence in those 12 seats not going NDP. I think the NDP can easily win 30+ seats. Where it won't happen is every province but Ontario and B.C. and NWT. (and maybe Saskatchewan)

I have a feeling that the Cons will con more votes away from the Libs than the NDP will... sadly.

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« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2005, 02:49:53 PM »

Grewal tapes were altered – forensic physicist

At the request of the Canadian Press (CP), Canada’s multimedia news agency, a top forensic sound analyst studied Grewal’s secretly recorded tapes and told CP that a conversation has been altered.
 
It appears a 46 second section of a conversation between Grewal and Dosanjh has an abnormal break indicating that a portion has been edited out.

Pausak, a physicist and MIT trained forensic scientist says "It appears to be altered. This brief segment at the beginning shows that it's not continuous, and it should be."

Pasauk identified a discontinuity where he confronted a zero-signal gap of about 0.3 seconds and then the conversation resumed.

The tapes have created a controversy within Parliament. Dosanjh, one of two Liberals that were secretly recorded by Grewal, has contended the tapes were altered because sections are missing by his recollection of how the conversation progressed.

In addition, half of the Conservative caucus apparently is opposed to making secret recordings, and have shown disdain for Grewal’s actions, some suggest Grewal’s career could be at risk.

Suspicion surrounding the authenticity of the recordings grew following Grewal's release of only portions of conversations. Fourteen days elapsed before the entire tapes were made public.

Repeatedly addressing the media Grewal claimed he was approached by the Liberals but this has been contradicted by Sudesh Kalia, a member of the Liberal Party, who says it’s the other way around. Kalia was approached by Grewal to propose a deal to jump parties in return for a cabinet post.

Since Kalia’s revelation Grewal has been relatively silent.
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« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2005, 07:25:03 PM »

Odder and odder... I'm surprised that these games are still being played, it looks like they have to play nice together til about February... that or the longest election in Westminister Parliamentary history.

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« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2005, 11:05:58 PM »

Hey, did you hear Landry has decided to step down as PQ leader. That means Duceppe may replace him. Very interesting.
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« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2005, 09:06:26 AM »

Hey, did you hear Landry has decided to step down as PQ leader. That means Duceppe may replace him. Very interesting.

I think Duceppe wants to take the government down before he leaves, he may change his mind though and go into Provincial politics, not that the BQ is Federal politics. I only wish that were funny...

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« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2005, 06:07:05 PM »

And just when you thought the Liberal government might have an easy time of it, now it looks like same sex marriage might be the issue that brings it down.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/news/national/2005/06/07/martin-samesex050607.html
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« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2005, 07:47:42 PM »

Hmm... odder and odder...

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« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2005, 10:37:39 PM »

Gay marriage has been going on and on and on for something like two years now. Can't we talk about something else? Like all those Liberal scandals?
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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2005, 11:02:44 PM »

Gay marriage has been going on and on and on for something like two years now. Can't we talk about something else? Like all those Liberal scandals?

NO

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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2005, 11:39:36 PM »

Grewal tapes were altered – forensic physicist

At the request of the Canadian Press (CP), Canada’s multimedia news agency, a top forensic sound analyst studied Grewal’s secretly recorded tapes and told CP that a conversation has been altered.
 
It appears a 46 second section of a conversation between Grewal and Dosanjh has an abnormal break indicating that a portion has been edited out.

Pausak, a physicist and MIT trained forensic scientist says "It appears to be altered. This brief segment at the beginning shows that it's not continuous, and it should be."

Pasauk identified a discontinuity where he confronted a zero-signal gap of about 0.3 seconds and then the conversation resumed.

The tapes have created a controversy within Parliament. Dosanjh, one of two Liberals that were secretly recorded by Grewal, has contended the tapes were altered because sections are missing by his recollection of how the conversation progressed.

In addition, half of the Conservative caucus apparently is opposed to making secret recordings, and have shown disdain for Grewal’s actions, some suggest Grewal’s career could be at risk.

Suspicion surrounding the authenticity of the recordings grew following Grewal's release of only portions of conversations. Fourteen days elapsed before the entire tapes were made public.

Repeatedly addressing the media Grewal claimed he was approached by the Liberals but this has been contradicted by Sudesh Kalia, a member of the Liberal Party, who says it’s the other way around. Kalia was approached by Grewal to propose a deal to jump parties in return for a cabinet post.

Since Kalia’s revelation Grewal has been relatively silent.

maybe this is evolving into Canada's Rathergate... Grin
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« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2005, 01:28:06 AM »

Did any of you hear the recent poll numbers?

Liberals - 38%
Conservatives  - 23%
NDP - 21%

OUCH
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« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2005, 01:36:36 AM »

Did any of you hear the recent poll numbers?

Liberals - 38%
Conservatives  - 23%
NDP - 21%

OUCH
Whoa!! That translates into about 140 Liberals right!! The Tories are still angry though...
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« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2005, 01:42:34 AM »

Did any of you hear the recent poll numbers?

Liberals - 38%
Conservatives  - 23%
NDP - 21%

OUCH
Whoa!! That translates into about 140 Liberals right!! The Tories are still angry though...

I think that's close to a majority for the Liberals- may 150 or 155 seats. That's about 70-80 seats for the tories and around 40 for the NDP.
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« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2005, 04:36:55 AM »

The poll in question: Lib 37/Con 23/NDP 21 is by Decima Research and was published yesterday, not sure who for. Can't find any breakdowns.
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« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2005, 11:42:09 AM »

The poll also showed the NDP in #2 place in Ontario. Cheesy
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« Reply #45 on: June 09, 2005, 02:11:14 PM »

The poll also showed the NDP in #2 place in Ontario. Cheesy

Sadly, I'm beginning to doubt the accuracy of this poll now...

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« Reply #46 on: June 09, 2005, 10:19:32 PM »

The poll also showed the NDP in #2 place in Ontario. Cheesy

Sadly, I'm beginning to doubt the accuracy of this poll now...

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LOL, obviously. It's Decima research! They tend to overstate the NDP. Ipsos-Reid I find is the most accurate.
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« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2005, 09:36:31 AM »

Does anyone remember who the Globe & Mail endorsed in the 2004 Canadian Election? A while ago someone told me that the paper was usually centrist. Do they endorse only by riding or did they choose between Harper and Martin?

I was also told that the Toronto Star reflected my personal beliefs, but I felt the Globe had much better election coverage last summer.
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« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2005, 11:10:44 AM »

Fairly recent Ipsos Reid poll

Ontario:
Conservative Party - 31%
Liberals - 44% *****
NDP - 16%
Green Party - 7%

Quebec:
Conservative Party - 9%
Liberals - 22%
NDP - 12%
Bloc Quebecois - 51% *****
Green Party - 4%

British Columbia:
Conservative Party - 29%
Liberals - 35% *****
NDP - 23%
Green Party - 11%

Alberta:
Conservative Party - 60% *****
Liberals - 19%
NDP - 10%
Green Party - 10%

Saskatchewan/Manitoba
Conservative Party - 33%
Liberals - 35% *****
NDP - 27%
Green Party - 3%

Atlantic Canada
Conservative Party - 38%
Liberals - 42% *****
NDP - 17%
Green Party - 0%


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« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2005, 11:38:55 AM »

The NDP really should be gaining ground in Ontario from the Liberals, not losing ground as a whole. Lunatic strategic voting.

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