Politico: Sanders refuses to spend more time talking about terrorism

[Lief 🗽]

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http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-debate-no-terrorism-215868#ixzz3rW4eNCOm

[bobloblaw]

The events in Paris are the kiss of death to the left.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Good for Sanders. The right-wing media doesn't get to decide the issues.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Yes, Sanders main problem as a candidate is he is very hyper focused on one issue (inequality) and very weak on others. He can talk all day about economic issues focusing on his key demographic target, but in terms of national security or foreign policy he has nothing particular interesting to say beyond a few boilerplate liberal sentiments. There's nothing inherently wrong about running on a dovish platform, but Sanders doesn't seem that interested in substantiating his foreign policy at all, which is dumb, as foreign policy is the area POTUS has most power over.

[kansasdemocrat]

Unsurprising coming from an ISIS apologist.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

The events in Paris are the kiss of death to the left.

Do be quiet.

[Maxwell]

Someone get Bernard off the stage and put Jeff Boss (Democratic candidate, Former NSA caused 9/11 candidate) on.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Unsurprising coming from an ISIS apologist.

Oh yes because Sanders and ISIS have sooo much in common...idiot.

[kansasdemocrat]

Unsurprising coming from an ISIS apologist.

Oh yes because Sanders and ISIS have sooo much in common...idiot.

Both are America-bashing terrorists. Sanders is an economic terrorist and ISIS are Islamic terrorists.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Yes, Sanders main problem as a candidate is he is very hyper focused on one issue (inequality) and very weak on others. He can talk all day about economic issues focusing on his key demographic target, but in terms of national security or foreign policy he has nothing particular interesting to say beyond a few boilerplate liberal sentiments. There's nothing inherently wrong about running on a dovish platform, but Sanders doesn't seem that interested in substantiating his foreign policy at all, which is dumb, as foreign policy is the area POTUS has most power over.

Bernie isn't a dove. He said we should destroy ISIS.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Exactly. He has a very boring message in foreign policy - any radical leanings he may have are safely kept hidden - so he comes across as unsubstantial. Him talking about foreign policy reminds me of Lindsey Graham being asked about domestic policy.

[MasterJedi]

Yes, Sanders main problem as a candidate is he is very hyper focused on one issue (inequality) and very weak on others. He can talk all day about economic issues focusing on his key demographic target, but in terms of national security or foreign policy he has nothing particular interesting to say beyond a few boilerplate liberal sentiments. There's nothing inherently wrong about running on a dovish platform, but Sanders doesn't seem that interested in substantiating his foreign policy at all, which is dumb, as foreign policy is the area POTUS has most power over.

Bernie isn't a dove. He said we should destroy ISIS.

And looked so awkward saying it too. I think he's saying it just to say it rather than really believing it.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Exactly. He has a very boring message in foreign policy - any radical leanings he may have are safely kept hidden - so he comes across as unsubstantial. Him talking about foreign policy reminds me of Lindsey Graham being asked about domestic policy.

He doesn't have any radical leanings on foreign policy. He voted against Iraq and Kyl-Lieberman. He voted for Kosovo and Afghanistan.

[IceSpear]

Exactly. He has a very boring message in foreign policy - any radical leanings he may have are safely kept hidden - so he comes across as unsubstantial. Him talking about foreign policy reminds me of Lindsey Graham being asked about domestic policy.

This is a surprisingly good analogy.

[Pyro]

Sanders should not have opened the debate talking about income inequality, it was a mistake for his campaign. The elephant in the room (and the opening prompt) was regarding the attacks in Paris, and that is all that should have been addressed. Clinton has the most foreign policy experience and commanded that entire section of the debate. Although Sanders did come back and concentrate on ISIS, I think it was too late to save the moment.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Sanders' peevishness when asked to talk about things that don't interest him just illustrates why Elizabeth Warren didn't run. She's savvy enough to know you don't win a Presidential election by hammering one issue constantly.

[Figueira]

Sanders/Graham 2016?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Sanders' peevishness when asked to talk about things that don't interest him just illustrates why Elizabeth Warren didn't run. She's savvy enough to know you don't win a Presidential election by hammering one issue constantly.

LOL, he's not a one issue candidate.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Unsurprising coming from an ISIS apologist.

Oh yes because Sanders and ISIS have sooo much in common...idiot.

Both are America-bashing terrorists. Sanders is an economic terrorist and ISIS are Islamic terrorists.

Sanders is running for president but is an American-bashing terrorist? No logic is needed when talking to you clearly.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Unsurprising coming from an ISIS apologist.

Oh yes because Sanders and ISIS have sooo much in common...idiot.

Both are America-bashing terrorists. Sanders is an economic terrorist and ISIS are Islamic terrorists.

Sanders is running for president but is an American-bashing terrorist? No logic is needed when talking to you clearly.

Some of these Hillary supporters are completely unhinged.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Unsurprising coming from an ISIS apologist.

Oh yes because Sanders and ISIS have sooo much in common...idiot.

Both are America-bashing terrorists. Sanders is an economic terrorist and ISIS are Islamic terrorists.

Sanders is running for president but is an American-bashing terrorist? No logic is needed when talking to you clearly.

Some of these Hillary supporters are completely unhinged.

Clinton supporters are more conservative then Sanders suporters so it is not suprising to see some supporters name call and dismiss Sanders instead of talking about the issues.

[Intell]

Yea, Sanders seems horrible in Foreign Policy and did horribly in the Foreign Policy section, I'm having doubts on if he will be a good commander in-chief.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Yea, Sanders seems horrible in Foreign Policy and did horribly in the Foreign Policy section, I'm having doubts on if he will be a good commander in-chief.

He does a lot better on foreign policy than the candidate who supported the Iraq war, which led to the creation of ISIS.

[IceSpear]

Unsurprising coming from an ISIS apologist.

Oh yes because Sanders and ISIS have sooo much in common...idiot.

Both are America-bashing terrorists. Sanders is an economic terrorist and ISIS are Islamic terrorists.

Sanders is running for president but is an American-bashing terrorist? No logic is needed when talking to you clearly.

Some of these Hillary supporters are completely unhinged.

Clinton supporters are more conservative then Sanders suporters so it is not suprising to see some supporters name call and dismiss Sanders instead of talking about the issues.

Atlas is a funny place. On most sites, the online Sandernista vanguard will metaphorically send you to the gulag if you dare to voice opposition to their saint or question the wisdom of spammed online polls. They are also relentlessly negative against Hillary Clinton, even using GOP talking points and faux scandals against her to try to derail her candidacy. If you doubt any of this, go read the comments on any FiveThirtyEight article where they suggest Sanders is unlikely to win the Democratic nomination. They accuse anyone who says so of being corporatist hacks/Hillary shills/Wall Street shills. By contrast, Hillary supporters rarely attack Sanders.

On Atlas though, the dynamic seems to be reversed. I think we thrive on being contrarian, honestly. Back in early 2014/early to mid 2015 this site despised Hillary with a passion and I was one of her few vocal supporters. Sanders was met with nearly universal praise and adulation when he was just a random socialist fringe candidate polling at 4% against Hillary's ~70%. Now that Sanders has tons of online fanboys extolling his every move while Hillary takes abuse endlessly from all sides, the dynamic has changed. Of course, the exodus of many users from Atlas to AAD probably had some impact as well, along with the steady influx of new users as we get closer to the election.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Unsurprising coming from an ISIS apologist.

Oh yes because Sanders and ISIS have sooo much in common...idiot.

Both are America-bashing terrorists. Sanders is an economic terrorist and ISIS are Islamic terrorists.

Sanders is running for president but is an American-bashing terrorist? No logic is needed when talking to you clearly.

Some of these Hillary supporters are completely unhinged.

Clinton supporters are more conservative then Sanders suporters so it is not suprising to see some supporters name call and dismiss Sanders instead of talking about the issues.

Atlas is a funny place. On most sites, the online Sandernista vanguard will metaphorically send you to the gulag if you dare to voice opposition to their saint or question the wisdom of spammed online polls. They are also relentlessly negative against Hillary Clinton, even using GOP talking points and faux scandals against her to try to derail her candidacy. If you doubt any of this, go read the comments on any FiveThirtyEight article where they suggest Sanders is unlikely to win the Democratic nomination. They accuse anyone who says so of being corporatist hacks/Hillary shills/Wall Street shills. By contrast, Hillary supporters rarely attack Sanders.

On Atlas though, the dynamic seems to be reversed. I think we thrive on being contrarian, honestly. Back in early 2014/early to mid 2015 this site despised Hillary with a passion and I was one of her few vocal supporters. Sanders was met with nearly universal praise and adulation when he was just a random socialist fringe candidate polling at 4% against Hillary's ~70%. Now that Sanders has tons of online fanboys extolling his every move while Hillary takes abuse endlessly from all sides, the dynamic has changed. Of course, the exodus of many users from Atlas to AAD probably had some impact as well, along with the steady influx of new users as we get closer to the election.

LOL, you quote someone saying Bernie is an ISIS apologist an claim that Hillary supporters rarely attack Bernie. They do a fair amount, and also go after his supporters. Hillary supporters have no problem repeating lies from right-wing sites like the WSJ to attack Bernie.