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jfern
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« on: November 14, 2015, 11:14:13 PM »

Yes, Sanders main problem as a candidate is he is very hyper focused on one issue (inequality) and very weak on others. He can talk all day about economic issues focusing on his key demographic target, but in terms of national security or foreign policy he has nothing particular interesting to say beyond a few boilerplate liberal sentiments. There's nothing inherently wrong about running on a dovish platform, but Sanders doesn't seem that interested in substantiating his foreign policy at all, which is dumb, as foreign policy is the area POTUS has most power over.

Bernie isn't a dove. He said we should destroy ISIS.
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jfern
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2015, 11:19:37 PM »

Exactly. He has a very boring message in foreign policy - any radical leanings he may have are safely kept hidden - so he comes across as unsubstantial. Him talking about foreign policy reminds me of Lindsey Graham being asked about domestic policy.

He doesn't have any radical leanings on foreign policy. He voted against Iraq and Kyl-Lieberman. He voted for Kosovo and Afghanistan.
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jfern
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2015, 11:38:27 PM »

Sanders' peevishness when asked to talk about things that don't interest him just illustrates why Elizabeth Warren didn't run. She's savvy enough to know you don't win a Presidential election by hammering one issue constantly.

LOL, he's not a one issue candidate.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2015, 11:50:23 PM »

Unsurprising coming from an ISIS apologist.

Oh yes because Sanders and ISIS have sooo much in common...idiot.

Both are America-bashing terrorists. Sanders is an economic terrorist and ISIS are Islamic terrorists.

Sanders is running for president but is an American-bashing terrorist? No logic is needed when talking to you clearly.

Some of these Hillary supporters are completely unhinged.
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2015, 12:07:09 AM »

Yea, Sanders seems horrible in Foreign Policy and did horribly in the Foreign Policy section, I'm having doubts on if he will be a good commander in-chief.

He does a lot better on foreign policy than the candidate who supported the Iraq war, which led to the creation of ISIS.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2015, 12:31:16 AM »

Unsurprising coming from an ISIS apologist.

Oh yes because Sanders and ISIS have sooo much in common...idiot.



Both are America-bashing terrorists. Sanders is an economic terrorist and ISIS are Islamic terrorists.

Sanders is running for president but is an American-bashing terrorist? No logic is needed when talking to you clearly.

Some of these Hillary supporters are completely unhinged.

Clinton supporters are more conservative then Sanders suporters so it is not suprising to see some supporters name call and dismiss Sanders instead of talking about the issues.

Atlas is a funny place. On most sites, the online Sandernista vanguard will metaphorically send you to the gulag if you dare to voice opposition to their saint or question the wisdom of spammed online polls. They are also relentlessly negative against Hillary Clinton, even using GOP talking points and faux scandals against her to try to derail her candidacy. If you doubt any of this, go read the comments on any FiveThirtyEight article where they suggest Sanders is unlikely to win the Democratic nomination. They accuse anyone who says so of being corporatist hacks/Hillary shills/Wall Street shills. By contrast, Hillary supporters rarely attack Sanders.

On Atlas though, the dynamic seems to be reversed. I think we thrive on being contrarian, honestly. Back in early 2014/early to mid 2015 this site despised Hillary with a passion and I was one of her few vocal supporters. Sanders was met with nearly universal praise and adulation when he was just a random socialist fringe candidate polling at 4% against Hillary's ~70%. Now that Sanders has tons of online fanboys extolling his every move while Hillary takes abuse endlessly from all sides, the dynamic has changed. Of course, the exodus of many users from Atlas to AAD probably had some impact as well, along with the steady influx of new users as we get closer to the election.

LOL, you quote someone saying Bernie is an ISIS apologist an claim that Hillary supporters rarely attack Bernie. They do a fair amount, and also go after his supporters. Hillary supporters have no problem repeating lies from right-wing sites like the WSJ to attack Bernie.
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jfern
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E: -7.38, S: -8.36

« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2015, 04:25:34 PM »

Unsurprising coming from an ISIS apologist.

Oh yes because Sanders and ISIS have sooo much in common...idiot.



Both are America-bashing terrorists. Sanders is an economic terrorist and ISIS are Islamic terrorists.

Sanders is running for president but is an American-bashing terrorist? No logic is needed when talking to you clearly.

Some of these Hillary supporters are completely unhinged.

Clinton supporters are more conservative then Sanders suporters so it is not suprising to see some supporters name call and dismiss Sanders instead of talking about the issues.

Atlas is a funny place. On most sites, the online Sandernista vanguard will metaphorically send you to the gulag if you dare to voice opposition to their saint or question the wisdom of spammed online polls. They are also relentlessly negative against Hillary Clinton, even using GOP talking points and faux scandals against her to try to derail her candidacy. If you doubt any of this, go read the comments on any FiveThirtyEight article where they suggest Sanders is unlikely to win the Democratic nomination. They accuse anyone who says so of being corporatist hacks/Hillary shills/Wall Street shills. By contrast, Hillary supporters rarely attack Sanders.

On Atlas though, the dynamic seems to be reversed. I think we thrive on being contrarian, honestly. Back in early 2014/early to mid 2015 this site despised Hillary with a passion and I was one of her few vocal supporters. Sanders was met with nearly universal praise and adulation when he was just a random socialist fringe candidate polling at 4% against Hillary's ~70%. Now that Sanders has tons of online fanboys extolling his every move while Hillary takes abuse endlessly from all sides, the dynamic has changed. Of course, the exodus of many users from Atlas to AAD probably had some impact as well, along with the steady influx of new users as we get closer to the election.

LOL, you quote someone saying Bernie is an ISIS apologist an claim that Hillary supporters rarely attack Bernie. They do a fair amount, and also go after his supporters. Hillary supporters have no problem repeating lies from right-wing sites like the WSJ to attack Bernie.

Like I said, I'm referring to the internet in general, not just this forum.

Hillary supporters were quick to parrot lies about Bernie from the WSJ like the $18 trillion lie and the supposed flip flop on the emails.
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2015, 04:45:34 PM »

lol, are the sandernistas still acting like the $18 trillion article was some fraudulent hit piece? wow, wow, wow.

Of course it was. It was based upon faulty analysis of a single payer healthcare bill that wasn't Bernie's. Total crap. Do you really hate single payer healthcare enough that you side with the WSJ over single payer?
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2015, 10:02:15 PM »

And another lie from the Hillary campaign just got busted.

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http://time.com/4113762/democratic-debate-bernie-sanders-argument/
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