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Senator Cris
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« on: November 16, 2015, 03:28:01 PM »
« edited: November 16, 2015, 04:00:22 PM by Speaker Cris »

Trump 31
Carson 22
Cruz 13
Rubio 9
Fiorina 4
Kasich 4
Paul 4
Bush 3
Christie 2
Huckabee 1
Jindal 1
Santorum < 1
Graham < 1
Pataki 0
Gilmore 0

Clinton 63
Sanders 29
O'Malley 6

http://www.umass.edu/poll/pdfs/20151116_Toplines.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2015, 03:38:44 PM »

Past MA primaries:

12: Romney 72, Santorum 12
08 McCain 51, Romney 41
00 McCain 65, W 32
96: Dole 48, Buchanan 25

Now the most popular establishment candidate is in fourth, and the establishment candidates (Rubio,  Kasich, Bush, Christie) total 18%. Time for the GOPe to start panicking.
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2015, 03:49:06 PM »

Well the last time we have a MA poll (despite different pollster).

-Trump went down quite a bit
-Carson went up quite a bit
-Cruz seemed to double
-Bush get halves
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2015, 04:00:53 PM »

It's a national poll.
Sorry guys.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2015, 04:04:16 PM »

Being a national poll makes this much better for Trump than if it were just MA. It's still YouGov, though.
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2015, 04:06:13 PM »

It's a poll conducted Nov. 5-13, so it's not entirely post-debate.
I'm looking forward for an entirely post-debate national that's not Rasmussen.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2015, 04:42:50 PM »

O'Mentum!
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2015, 05:22:07 PM »



Pretty nice poll, pretty nice poll...

The Donald smashing Dr. Pathological is such a joy for our nation!

also I'd like to point out Jeb Bush. at 3%. Ouch. And behind the terrible terrible Kasich.
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2015, 05:33:23 PM »

Bush should really drop out, he wont win NH or any early states, not even his own. Cruz is doin' better though, could be a frontrunner soon, along with Rubio.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2015, 07:14:22 PM »

jfern's absence from this thread is telling.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2015, 09:05:07 PM »

Note that among “confirmed registered voters”, Carson has much better #s:

Carson 29%
Trump 28%
Cruz 17%
Rubio 9%
Fiorina 4%
Kasich 3%
Bush 3%
Paul 3%
Christie 1%
Huckabee 1%
Jindal 1%
Santorum 1%
Pataki 1%
Graham, Gilmore 0%

Carson’s also first in the “second choice” list, followed by Cruz and Rubio, followed by Trump.
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2015, 09:35:54 PM »

The thirst was real for Kasich to be a loserwinner, but reality had other ideas.
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2015, 09:49:10 PM »


This was taken entirely before the Dem debate. Interesting.
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2015, 09:54:50 PM »


I knew there was something off about this poll.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2015, 11:44:41 PM »

Poor Gilmore, not one person chose him as their first, second, third, fourth or even fifth choice.
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2015, 12:37:02 AM »

Poor Gilmore, not one person chose him as their first, second, third, fourth or even fifth choice.

Wow, you just made me pity him more than South Park's incarnation of Al Gore.
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2015, 01:22:05 AM »

jfern's absence from this thread is telling.

It's a pre debate poll from a subpar pollster. Nothing to get too excited about.
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2015, 05:36:52 PM »

jfern's absence from this thread is telling.

It's a pre debate poll from a subpar pollster. Nothing to get too excited about.
>Subpar

> University of Massachusetts
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2015, 01:51:26 AM »

Past MA primaries:

12: Romney 72, Santorum 12
08 McCain 51, Romney 41
00 McCain 65, W 32
96: Dole 48, Buchanan 25

Now the most popular establishment candidate is in fourth, and the establishment candidates (Rubio,  Kasich, Bush, Christie) total 18%. Time for the GOPe to start panicking.

I am pretty sure Romney won 51-41 over McCain in 2008.

The only places he lost were Suffolk County and the Berkshires.
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2015, 12:34:56 PM »

jfern's absence from this thread is telling.

It's a pre debate poll from a subpar pollster. Nothing to get too excited about.
>Subpar

> University of Massachusetts

I wasn't aware UMass even did polling of this kind, and I went to UMass.
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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2015, 01:53:19 AM »

The WaPo explains some of the findings re: who supporters of each candidate rank as their 2nd, 3rd, 4th choice candidates:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2015/11/19/republican-voters-actually-arent-divided-into-establishment-and-outsider-camps/

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Here’s the plot:



There’s also this plot of how voters would move to other candidates if their favored candidate dropped out:



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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2015, 08:33:05 PM »

jfern's absence from this thread is telling.

It's a pre debate poll from a subpar pollster. Nothing to get too excited about.
>Subpar

> University of Massachusetts

I wasn't aware UMass even did polling of this kind, and I went to UMass.

I remember they were the only poll to show Coakley ahead right before the 2014 election. Although most pollsters overestimated Baker IIRC.
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