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Clarko95 📚💰📈
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« on: November 16, 2015, 07:04:52 PM »

If the state doesn't want to accept the thousands of people, too damn bad.

Yes, it is too damn bad for the states. Not only is it unconstitutional for them to simply refuse, but also missing out on 1.) saving people, and 2.) saving people who can contribute to America's society and economy, the same way immigrants and refugees have for decades.
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Clarko95 📚💰📈
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2015, 07:38:24 PM »

If the state doesn't want to accept the thousands of people, too damn bad.

Yes, it is too damn bad for the states. Not only is it unconstitutional for them to simply refuse, but also missing out on 1.) saving people, and 2.) saving people who can contribute to America's society and economy, the same way immigrants and refugees have for decades.

Did you completely disregard my entire point?

And when is this "they can contribute to the economy point" going to end. Let's drop the borders in their entirety how about it? Because the entire global population can apparently "make 'murica boom!"

What point? That you easily fall prey to the politics of fear?

The economy point will end when immigrants stop contributing, which won't be any time soon. Syrian Americans are an accomplished and established group in this country, and having a pre-existing base helps immigrants integrate more easily. We've already accepted thousands of refugees from Iraq over the past two decades and Syria; there hasn't been any trouble despite the knee-jerk paranoia over Muslims and Arabs. We already vet them, so they're not really "unknown".

But nice strawman about "open borders", which is what literally no one supports. 10,000 more refugees on top of the tens of thousands we already accept is not going to be the end of the world.
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2015, 08:24:44 PM »

I'm fine for temporarily housing refugees and family in a crisis, but only in an ordered manner. There needs to be extremely precautionary checks and research on every single one of them. Our feelings being hurt is not a reason to irresponsibly migrate people en masse to the United States. If it's going to be done, it needs to be done responsibly and with national security as the most extreme concern. We need to quit using "ur fear mongering!!1" and our feelings as a source of irresponsible decisions as well as murky & weak foreign policy.

This is what we already do. We have a 12 - 24 month screening process. This is how it has been for years. The ony change that happened was we increased the total number of refugees we would take by 10,000.


You really don't know what you're talking about. You are suggesting a "solution" that already exists. You're just reacting, like these Governors.
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Clarko95 📚💰📈
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2015, 09:17:32 AM »

Friendly reminder to everyone that we have taken in hundreds of thousands of refugees and immigrants over the past 20 years from Muslim countries like Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Kuwait, and Afghanistan and there have been virtually no problems.
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