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« Reply #375 on: May 02, 2016, 02:21:10 PM »

Dude the student radicals of the late 1960s were infinitely more violent than those of today. As you'd know if you'd actually read those history books rather than just looked at the pictures.

They were also far more numerous and far more relevant.
They were also for the most part actually right to be angry as well.
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« Reply #376 on: May 02, 2016, 02:36:43 PM »

Indeed.

The kids today could complain about war but there is and will be a Dem in the White House so that's generally out of the question for most of them.  LBJ rhymes better than Obama.....to be fair, LBJ killed a whole mess more people than Obama has.
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« Reply #377 on: May 02, 2016, 04:45:11 PM »

Indeed.

The kids today could complain about war but there is and will be a Dem in the White House so that's generally out of the question for most of them.  LBJ rhymes better than Obama.....to be fair, LBJ killed a whole mess more people than Obama has.
It depends who you blame for Iraq (I blame Bush), I guess.
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« Reply #378 on: May 02, 2016, 05:36:00 PM »
« Edited: May 02, 2016, 05:44:29 PM by Simfan34 »

Some narrow-minded "progressives" booed good old Bloomie at UMich:

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Bloomie, speaking the truth long before it was popular, well before Obama belatedly (if still admirably) joined the choir. And how they derided him then!

Oh Bloomie, how we miss you.
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« Reply #379 on: May 02, 2016, 06:46:51 PM »

Is college not about growing up and hearing and experimenting with new ideas?

Some things in college I did take offense to. It was hardly anything I needed a trigger warning for. People are different. We often discussed serious topics at hand and were mature and disturbing in nature.

I saw a therapist on campus towards the end of my last semester. In retrospect, that was a safe space to confidentially pour out my problems to and receive support on campus.

I don't like Bloomberg, but he's hardly wrong here.
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« Reply #380 on: May 02, 2016, 06:48:56 PM »

Is college not about growing up and hearing and experimenting with new ideas?

Some things in college I did take offense to. It was hardly anything I needed a trigger warning for. People are different. We often discussed serious topics at hand and were mature and disturbing in nature.

I saw a therapist on campus towards the end of my last semester. In retrospect, that was a safe space to confidentially pour out my problems to and receive support on campus.

I don't like Bloomberg, but he's hardly wrong here.

Wow! One of the good Bernie supporters! FF!
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« Reply #381 on: May 03, 2016, 05:02:22 AM »

The regressive left (mostly misguided, angry feminists) took over positions at colleges and universities and spread these intolerant ideas to their students.

Weird to see conservatives, along with libertarians wage the war for free speech vs these brainwashed fools of the left.
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« Reply #382 on: May 03, 2016, 05:26:25 AM »

The regressive left (mostly misguided, angry feminists) took over positions at colleges and universities and spread these intolerant ideas to their students.

Weird to see conservatives, along with libertarians wage the war for free speech vs these brainwashed fools of the left.

They're not really defending free speech. Just the free speech of people who agree with them.
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« Reply #383 on: May 03, 2016, 08:34:31 AM »

You can keep saying that, it doesn't make it true.
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« Reply #384 on: May 03, 2016, 03:00:53 PM »

You can keep saying that, it doesn't make it true.

Exactly.  Just look at the reaction of Liberty University inviting Bernie Sanders to speak versus Trump attempting to speak by the University of Illinois-Chicago campus area.  Conservatives respect their adversaries; liberals do not afford such respect, and instead call conservatives names and try to kick them off of campuses.

Many socialists refuse to tolerate disagreement with their ideology, which they declare as truth.  They claim Popper's paradox and argue that because conservatives are "intolerant" of their radical SJW agenda - hating cops, wide-open borders, radical feminism, etc. - they are not worthy of tolerance themselves.  They hate everything America stands for.
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« Reply #385 on: May 03, 2016, 03:03:22 PM »

Radical feminism isn't really the variety of feminism I think of when I think of current campus activism.
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« Reply #386 on: May 03, 2016, 03:08:22 PM »

Radical feminism isn't really the variety of feminism I think of when I think of current campus activism.

I admit I'm probably not using the right academic terminology - I was just using the types who would call everything a "microaggression," stifle free speech, and demand special diversity offices/buildings/grants.  

Also, what I said doesn't apply to all liberals/socialists of course, just many of the most vocal ones.  
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« Reply #387 on: May 03, 2016, 03:41:50 PM »

Honestly, I think politics should stay out of college all together. Is it really worth it to continue this alt-right vs. SJW war?
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« Reply #388 on: May 03, 2016, 04:29:11 PM »

Honestly, I think politics should stay out of college all together. Is it really worth it to continue this alt-right vs. SJW war?

Can't be neutral on a moving train!
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« Reply #389 on: May 03, 2016, 04:51:17 PM »

You can keep saying that, it doesn't make it true.

Exactly.  Just look at the reaction of Liberty University inviting Bernie Sanders to speak versus Trump attempting to speak by the University of Illinois-Chicago campus area.  Conservatives respect their adversaries; liberals do not afford such respect, and instead call conservatives names and try to kick them off of campuses.

Many socialists refuse to tolerate disagreement with their ideology, which they declare as truth.  They claim Popper's paradox and argue that because conservatives are "intolerant" of their radical SJW agenda - hating cops, wide-open borders, radical feminism, etc. - they are not worthy of tolerance themselves.  They hate everything America stands for.

     SJW ideology has become like a religious command for many of these college kids. Because they have the Truth, no further debate is needed; only censorship of alternative viewpoints.
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« Reply #390 on: May 03, 2016, 06:09:32 PM »
« Edited: May 04, 2016, 09:10:31 AM by RightBehind »

I'm curious how many who criticize the censorship of social justice warriors also are for the censorship of criticism against Israel.
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« Reply #391 on: May 03, 2016, 06:13:51 PM »

Nobody should be censored for criticizing anything.
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« Reply #392 on: May 03, 2016, 08:28:36 PM »

Is the PC Movement this bad that Trump has all but officially clinched the nomination? That seems like a bad overcompensation.
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« Reply #393 on: May 03, 2016, 08:42:44 PM »

Is the PC Movement this bad that Trump has all but officially clinched the nomination? That seems like a bad overcompensation.

     It is pretty bad. Just compare the Duke Lacrosse case to the recent expulsion of the Basketball squad captain at Yale. In both cases, the team wore gear in solidarity with their accused teammates and endured heat. In the latter case, they are subjected to far worse treatment for doing so, even being condemned as rape apologists.

     It has gotten worse recently, and considering the power that the PC crowd wields on college campuses, it is hard to imagine the situation getting better left to its own devices. Trump may be an overcompensation, but the problem he is reacting is not one that can be left alone.
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« Reply #394 on: May 03, 2016, 11:45:48 PM »

I'm curious how many who criticize the censorship of social justice warriors also are fir thr censorship of criticism against Israel.
I criticize Israel more than I criticize SJW'ery.
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« Reply #395 on: May 04, 2016, 01:55:39 AM »

The regressive left (mostly misguided, angry feminists) took over positions at colleges and universities and spread these intolerant ideas to their students.

Weird to see conservatives, along with libertarians wage the war for free speech vs these brainwashed fools of the left.

They're not really defending free speech. Just the free speech of people who agree with them.

They aren't even doing that, they are yelling over each other generally just acting like petulant children.
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« Reply #396 on: May 04, 2016, 09:15:08 AM »

Is the PC Movement this bad that Trump has all but officially clinched the nomination? That seems like a bad overcompensation.

     It is pretty bad. Just compare the Duke Lacrosse case to the recent expulsion of the Basketball squad captain at Yale. In both cases, the team wore gear in solidarity with their accused teammates and endured heat. In the latter case, they are subjected to far worse treatment for doing so, even being condemned as rape apologists.

     It has gotten worse recently, and considering the power that the PC crowd wields on college campuses, it is hard to imagine the situation getting better left to its own devices. Trump may be an overcompensation, but the problem he is reacting is not one that can be left alone.

So stand up if need be. Trump is not the best answer if you have a problem with the movement.

Seriously, what have we become if it's okay to violate international law and indulge in collective punishment and to ignore the Geneva Conventions all because people hate political correctness?

Political correctness and the opposition is a cultural issue. Violating human rights and wanting to commit war crimes is a bigger concern to me.
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« Reply #397 on: May 04, 2016, 11:06:27 AM »

Well now I'm confused.  What's this about violating human rights and war crimes?
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« Reply #398 on: May 04, 2016, 11:34:26 AM »

Well now I'm confused.  What's this about violating human rights and war crimes?

The whole "killing terrorist families" thing presumably, which...let's be real...is currently happening all the time under Obama, just without the direct intent of that goal. You know liberals will finally start to whine about it because Trump said ahead of time that this was in the cards.
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« Reply #399 on: May 11, 2016, 10:35:01 PM »

Not sure if anyone's posted this yet, but here's basically a compiled list of all the demands initiated by college groups:

http://www.thedemands.org/

*gags*

Awesome. I imagine there will be a lot of blatantly unconstitutional stuff in here.
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