If BLM jumps the shark and earns universal disgust, will it ruin Hillary?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 30, 2024, 08:50:09 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Election Archive
  Election Archive
  2016 U.S. Presidential Election
  If BLM jumps the shark and earns universal disgust, will it ruin Hillary?
« previous next »
Pages: 1 2 3 [4]
Author Topic: If BLM jumps the shark and earns universal disgust, will it ruin Hillary?  (Read 5820 times)
RI
realisticidealist
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,780


Political Matrix
E: 0.39, S: 2.61

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #75 on: November 17, 2015, 10:40:30 PM »

1. It would be hard to be honest with yourself by saying mass incarceration has nothing to do with racism when minorites compose the majority of the prison population despite the fact that 69% of crimes are created by whites. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

That table lumps whites with Hispanics, which way overinflates the number. Regardless, your source shows blacks comprise 28.1% of total arrests while comprising only 26.4% of police homicides. Still not seeing the racial bias in police homicides.

Also, note that blacks are far overrepresented in violent crimes, which are much more likely to receive prison sentences versus other types of crimes: blacks comprise 38.5% of violent crimes arrests, 29.3% of property crimes arrests, and 27.4% of all other arrests.

The disparity is in incarcerations, I never claimed it was in arrests.

The table you linked is about arrests. But whatever.

If you combine whites and Hispanics, the aggregate group makes up 69.3% of arrests, disproportionately weighted toward non-violent crimes. This same aggregate group makes up 58.9% of federal prisoners. So yes, Hispanics+Blacks > 50% of federal prisoners, but you can't say that 69% of crimes are committed by non-Hispanic whites. That's completely untrue. There exists bias in that the proportion of blacks incarcerated is greater than the proportion of blacks arrested, but it is both not nearly as extreme as you presented and can be at least partially explained by the differential rates in the types of crimes committed between racial/ethnic groups.
Logged
bobloblaw
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,018
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #76 on: November 17, 2015, 11:16:46 PM »

No because she doesn't support most of what BLM demands.

wait till the DNC
Logged
Ebsy
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,001
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #77 on: November 18, 2015, 12:00:24 AM »
« Edited: November 18, 2015, 12:38:02 AM by Ebsy »

Let me tell you about a woman named Sister Souljah...
Logged
TJ in Oregon
TJ in Cleve
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,948
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: 6.96

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #78 on: November 18, 2015, 12:31:47 AM »

BLM isn't a nationalized movement but varies from place to place. In the case of the Madison BLM movement, the "If" in that statement is unnecessary as they've been calling for racial quotas in incarceration as well as the creation of no-policing zones in the occasional moments when their spokespeople in the City Hall have stopped yelling profanities long enough to actually propose something. Mostly, everyone just ignores them when present and then talks about how they feel their pain afterward.
Logged
🦀🎂🦀🎂
CrabCake
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,270
Kiribati


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #79 on: November 18, 2015, 04:36:12 AM »


I mean, has the 2016 election just attracted more nationalists and white supremacists than before? I just don't understand when this site became so infested with this sh**t. Maybe I just didn't see it before.

While the tension has been brewing for a long, long time I believe this season of South Park was an important stimulus for the push back. I'd noticed occasional articles over the past few years confronting some of the more hypocritical/authoritarian P.C. SJW college episodes but never anything major. Around episode 3 or 4 of South Park this Fall, Real Clear and a few other political websites began to feature articles referencing South Park within the anti-P.C. context. I then started noticing more and more anti-P.C. articles in general including one on Halloween predicting that college P.C. had jumped the shark because the administration of Yale had just sent out an email about halloween costumes. The next week everything exploded, Mizzou and Yale had their tantrums, and I have since noticed multiple pro or anti college P.C. articles per day ever since. And now Dartmouth will certainly continue the phenomenon.
 
This current season of South Park is a commentary on P.C. culture, and their reflections mirror many observations that I noticed when I was an undergrad in college but never articulated because it seemed pointless/hopeless. Perhaps other viewers are having similar experiences. This could explain the uptick in posters who are no longer willing to just sit quietly when they're called "white supremacists" because they don't engage in self-flagellation and adopt intersectionality 101 talking points as truth.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FrZRIW87eWI
Logged
I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,050
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #80 on: November 18, 2015, 09:32:27 AM »

MLK wanted to nationalize industries. His social policy, however, was not socialistic. It was merely progressive.

That simply does not make any sense.
Logged
Bojack Horseman
Wolverine22
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,374
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #81 on: November 18, 2015, 09:34:23 AM »

The basic cause of BLM is good and I fully support it, but like most protests it is done in an awful manner and a lot of scummy people take advantage of it to be an outlet for their messed up actions.

This times a million. I agree with their cause, but they don't seem to realize that social change is a process and not an event.
Logged
MK
Mike Keller
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,432
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #82 on: November 18, 2015, 10:16:37 AM »

BLM is nothing more than a domestic terrorist group. MLK would be rolling in his grave.

At this point he probably has rolled right into malcome X
Logged
🦀🎂🦀🎂
CrabCake
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,270
Kiribati


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #83 on: November 18, 2015, 11:53:28 AM »
« Edited: November 18, 2015, 11:55:15 AM by CrabCake the Liberal Magician »

I would think MLK would probably roll in his grave because black people continue to suffer disproportionately from poverty, underinvestment in infrastructure, police brutality and discrimination half a century on from his death while his white middle-class hagiographers cheerfully rewrite history to recast him as a bland liberal who "achieved his main goal" with a piece of federal legislation. Next to that, I'm sure the fact that some of his latter day adherents use silly Twitter hashtags or once blocked a highway wouldn't really inspire Dr King to even rotate an inch.
Logged
Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
Nathan
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 34,425


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #84 on: November 18, 2015, 12:15:16 PM »

I see that people are being obtuse about the concepts of 'set phrases' and 'shibboleths' and 'not every statement implying its contrapositive' again.
Logged
bobloblaw
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,018
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #85 on: November 18, 2015, 02:25:45 PM »

I would think MLK would probably roll in his grave because black people continue to suffer disproportionately from poverty, underinvestment in infrastructure, police brutality and discrimination half a century on from his death while his white middle-class hagiographers cheerfully rewrite history to recast him as a bland liberal who "achieved his main goal" with a piece of federal legislation. Next to that, I'm sure the fact that some of his latter day adherents use silly Twitter hashtags or once blocked a highway wouldn't really inspire Dr King to even rotate an inch.


Most of MLKs goals have been achieved.
Logged
OSR stands with Israel
Computer89
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 44,763


Political Matrix
E: 3.42, S: 2.61

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #86 on: November 18, 2015, 11:03:04 PM »

It is a sad reflection on our society that "Black lives matter" is a remotely controversial statement.

It's not the statement what is controversial , its what the group is doing which is controversial. They are just using the statement to mask their radical views and their behavior.
Logged
OSR stands with Israel
Computer89
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 44,763


Political Matrix
E: 3.42, S: 2.61

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #87 on: November 18, 2015, 11:04:27 PM »
« Edited: November 19, 2015, 03:24:12 AM by Moderate Hero Republican »

BLM should stop being a SJW group which preaches an extreme and radical form of political correctness and instead be  a group what preaches against police brutality.
Logged
bagelman
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,617
United States


Political Matrix
E: -4.90, S: -4.17

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #88 on: November 19, 2015, 01:14:08 AM »

BLM should stop being a SJW group which preaches an extreme and radical form of political correctness and being a group what preaches against police brutality.

BLM is not a unitary group, it is a hashtag campaign that originally was just that, a movement to protest the problem of police brutality and its negative effects on the black community.

But then SJW groups saw this and moved in to use the BLM name for their own gain. These groups, of course, have a different agenda.
Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 [4]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.042 seconds with 12 queries.