Kasich proposes goverment agency to spread Christian values around the world

[Torie]

I am sure when Kasich refers to Judeo-Christian values, he is speaking about basic values that most of us share, be we religious - or Godless, like myself. He might have said pluralistic, democratic values, under the rule of law impartially and fairly applied, but that's more complicated. Kasich is not a theocrat.

No.  When you have jihadists trying to establish a caliphate who massacre over a hundred people in Paris on Friday you don't show up on Tuesday and say some dumb sh-t like this.  Is this guy an ISIS plant?  What the hell, man?!

I think it is a bad idea to let ISIS curb one's speech. Indeed, Islamic extremists, ready and willing to commit murder for their cause, have been far too effective in accomplishing just that (mostly outside the US for the moment, thank heavens), as they instill fear in folks. Of course, the ability of the US to promote said values around the world is close to nil, but whatever.

[Enduro]

That job is for Christians, not government.

[Angel of Death]

Give Jon Huntsman credit for never pandering like this.

[Kingpoleon]

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http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/kasich-proposes-new-government-agency-promote-judeo-christian-values-n465101

What a pathetic joke.

The two bolded parts are contradictory. I see no direct quote for this headline.

[bobloblaw]

No more agencies.

[An American Tail: Fubart Goes West]

Give Jon Huntsman credit for never pandering like this.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

The government should never assume the duties of the church.  And I'm saying this as a Conservative Evangelical Christian, the group of people that some think are trying to destroy religious freedom.

Weren't claiming you had never seen Republicans do anything to push religion via government in the thread on Cruz?

Well, this is another example for you.

And people on the right wonder why the left thinks they're wanna-be theocrats...

A few isolated examples, I'll concede that.  But my point stands that it works the other way more often.

[Penelope]

Give Jon Huntsman credit for never pandering like this.

Indeed. Who would've imagined in August that John Kasich's campaign would actually be worse than Jon Huntsman's? And not only that, but more opportunistic. Kasich's campaign is going down in flames.

[Kingpoleon]

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Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/john-kasich-judeo-christian-agency-216001#ixzz3rnau5pCG

[tallguy23]

How the hell did this man go from a sensible, moderate candidate to a total nut? Depressing.

[Crumpets]

How the hell did this man go from a sensible, moderate candidate to a total nut? Depressing.

Just because conservatives hate him doesn't mean he was ever a sensible, moderate candidate.

[DrScholl]

It appears that no one can call him sensible anymore.

[TJ in Oregon]

I am sure when Kasich refers to Judeo-Christian values, he is speaking about basic values that most of us share, be we religious - or Godless, like myself. He might have said pluralistic, democratic values, under the rule of law impartially and fairly applied, but that's more complicated. Kasich is not a theocrat.

The thing about this is that if he had left out the phrase "Judeo-Christian" and gave it the same content no one would object all that strongly. Heck, the US has been doing that sort of thing for decades when we give out aid to places. The ideology we project is basically that of whoever is in power.

[RI]

You guys do realize this is the same guy who expanded Medicaid in Ohio for explicitly Christian reasons right?

[Clark Kent]

The government should never assume the duties of the church.  And I'm saying this as a Conservative Evangelical Christian, the group of people that some think are trying to destroy religious freedom.

This, so much. There's nothing wrong with spreading Christian values, but the government should not be doing that.

[TJ in Oregon]

You guys do realize this is the same guy who expanded Medicaid in Ohio for explicitly Christian reasons right?

You see we like politicians when they make decisions for Christian reasons if we agree with the decisions, but if not we don't! (which is actually a fairly reasonable view tbh)

[Angel of Death]

You guys do realize this is the same guy who expanded Medicaid in Ohio for explicitly Christian reasons right?

So he is a light version of Huckabee? What a relief.

[ag]

There are few words I despise more than "Judeo-Christian" (unless, of course, "Judeo-Christian" refers to early Jewish communities of the Jesus followers, or, perhaps, the modern Jews for Jesus movement - that is the only context in which it is ok).

Leave the Jews alone!

[ag]

I am sure when Kasich refers to Judeo-Christian values, he is speaking about basic values that most of us share, be we religious - or Godless, like myself. He might have said pluralistic, democratic values, under the rule of law impartially and fairly applied, but that's more complicated. Kasich is not a theocrat.

The thing about this is that if he had left out the phrase "Judeo-Christian" and gave it the same content no one would object all that strongly. Heck, the US has been doing that sort of thing for decades when we give out aid to places. The ideology we project is basically that of whoever is in power.

I would not even care if he just said "Christian": though, of course, I think Christianity has nothing to do with those values, but, hell, that is no different than Soviets citing Marx or Lenin on ritual occasions or in book introductions. But the "Judeo-" part I, as a Jew, find deeply offensive.

[Higgs]

What a joke

[bobloblaw]

You guys do realize this is the same guy who expanded Medicaid in Ohio for explicitly Christian reasons right?

ah yes, the christian socialist....my favorite type of person.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Wow this is notable. A Republican candidate just proposed something I like!

[Stockdale for Veep]

Somebody should tell the European clinics that provide abortions to step up their security.

[Maxwell]

How the hell did this man go from a sensible, moderate candidate to a total nut? Depressing.

Just because conservatives hate him doesn't mean he was ever a sensible, moderate candidate.

He was on Reagan's campaign in 1976, he ran as a right-wing conservative every time he ran for Congress. When he retired he worked for Fox News to blab right-wing talking points, and worked for Lehman Brothers just as the banks were crashing down. Then he ran for Governor on a strongly conservative platform, won, and largely enacted that platform with some exceptions (because they were defeated embarassingly) and added some stuff to make himself look reasonable.

John Kasich throws out an issue or two, but make no mistake, he's not a moderate nor has he ever been a moderate.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I am sure when Kasich refers to Judeo-Christian values, he is speaking about basic values that most of us share, be we religious - or Godless, like myself. He might have said pluralistic, democratic values, under the rule of law impartially and fairly applied, but that's more complicated. Kasich is not a theocrat.

The thing about this is that if he had left out the phrase "Judeo-Christian" and gave it the same content no one would object all that strongly. Heck, the US has been doing that sort of thing for decades when we give out aid to places. The ideology we project is basically that of whoever is in power.

I would not even care if he just said "Christian": though, of course, I think Christianity has nothing to do with those values, but, hell, that is no different than Soviets citing Marx or Lenin on ritual occasions or in book introductions. But the "Judeo-" part I, as a Jew, find deeply offensive.

If you were Greek would you be offended by the term "Greco-Roman"?