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« Reply #50 on: November 29, 2015, 12:13:07 AM »

- The government should encourage abortion among those in the lower class.
- Incest, polygamy, etc. should be legal.
- Adultery should be illegal.
- Killing any vertebrate animal should be illegal.
- The means of production should be nationalized (to an extent).
- Presidential term limits should be abolished.
- All trade/economic relations with China, India, and other southeast Asian countries should be immediately halted until (many, many) more labor regulations are put in place.
- A new world organization should be put in place (toss the UN) and federalize all of the nations.
- The government should subsidize pornography.
- Literally a majority of government funds should be reallocated towards finding effective cures for diseases and increasing the human lifespan.
- We should negotiate with ISIS instead of using military force.
- Species-specific chemical castration agents should be poured into natural water sources in order to prevent animal overpopulation.
- The House and Senate should both be abolished and replaced by two new congressional chambers. The lower chamber should contain approximately 800 representatives allocated to the states based off of their population, with representatives being elected using party-list PR or STV on a state-by-state basis (no congressional districts). The upper house should contain approximately 30 representatives elected nationally using party-list PR or STV.

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- The government should encourage abortion among those in the lower class. (Yuck, Yuck, You Know what I think about this)
- Incest, polygamy, etc. should be legal. (Just No, there are things that should be illegal, I don't care about that)
- Adultery should be illegal. (I agree wttih this)
- Killing any vertebrate animal should be illegal. (How do we expect to eat, but for just plain hunting, I agree)
- The means of production should be nationalized (to an extent). (I'd rather have it collectively owned, or like the Germanic System, but nationalisation is better than what we have now.)
- Presidential term limits should be abolished. (Agree with this, we have a thing called democracy and voting)
- All trade/economic relations with China, India, and other southeast Asian countries should be immediately halted until (many, many) more labor regulations are put in place. (Let's not ruin the economy, shall we but yes we should try to improve labour standards and impose restrictions.)
- A new world organization should be put in place (toss the UN) and federalize all of the nations. (because that would work so well, with all the different cultures and people.)
- The government should subsidize pornography. (A 14 year old, are we, but really why, don't we spend on Healthcare, Education, Welfare instead of subsisizing f*king pornography.
- Literally a majority of government funds should be reallocated towards finding effective cures for diseases and increasing the human lifespan. (That would be a horrid idea, as we spend much of the money on healthcare, infrastructure, education, but I agree with the general direction of this point.)
- We should negotiate with ISIS instead of using military force. (Let's not, Lete the same as trying to 's just defeat it, ISIS is a horrid organization, it would be like negotiating with Nazi Germany, instead of trying to defeat them.)
- Species-specific chemical castration agents should be poured into natural water sources in order to prevent animal overpopulation. (No, why ought 'we try to disrupt the animal process.
- The House and Senate should both be abolished and replaced by two new congressional chambers. The lower chamber should contain approximately 800 representatives allocated to the states based off of their population, with representatives being elected using party-list PR or STV on a state-by-state basis (no congressional districts). The upper house should contain approximately 30 representatives elected nationally using party-list PR or STV. (I agree with this, but I'd rather have 1 chamber, with about 100 people, bigger normally means more of a mess.

Interesting Ideas, Nevertheless.
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« Reply #51 on: November 29, 2015, 01:11:58 AM »

Probably my stance on immigration (open borders now!) or the private automobile (history's greatest monster!) 

I'm also skeptical of the cult of homeownership, and its effects.
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« Reply #52 on: November 29, 2015, 03:05:51 AM »

- The government should encourage abortion among those in the lower class.

jesus christ that's borderline eugenics
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« Reply #53 on: November 29, 2015, 03:37:18 AM »

the one that comes to mind is support for ending registries and other barriers to re-entry into society for sex offenders who have served their sentences.   
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« Reply #54 on: November 29, 2015, 01:32:48 PM »

- The government should encourage abortion among those in the lower class.
- Incest, polygamy, etc. should be legal.
- Adultery should be illegal.
- Killing any vertebrate animal should be illegal.
- The means of production should be nationalized (to an extent).
- Presidential term limits should be abolished.
- All trade/economic relations with China, India, and other southeast Asian countries should be immediately halted until (many, many) more labor regulations are put in place.
- A new world organization should be put in place (toss the UN) and federalize all of the nations.
- The government should subsidize pornography.
- Literally a majority of government funds should be reallocated towards finding effective cures for diseases and increasing the human lifespan.
- We should negotiate with ISIS instead of using military force.
- Species-specific chemical castration agents should be poured into natural water sources in order to prevent animal overpopulation.
- The House and Senate should both be abolished and replaced by two new congressional chambers. The lower chamber should contain approximately 800 representatives allocated to the states based off of their population, with representatives being elected using party-list PR or STV on a state-by-state basis (no congressional districts). The upper house should contain approximately 30 representatives elected nationally using party-list PR or STV.

#radical #leftism
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« Reply #55 on: November 29, 2015, 02:12:21 PM »

Probably my desire to ban homeschooling in its entirety.
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« Reply #56 on: November 29, 2015, 03:20:17 PM »

Probably my stance on immigration (open borders now!) or the private automobile (history's greatest monster!) 

I'm also skeptical of the cult of homeownership, and its effects.


well i can get the logic behind those 2 things at least
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« Reply #57 on: November 29, 2015, 03:23:42 PM »

- The government should encourage abortion among those in the lower class.
- Incest, polygamy, etc. should be legal.
- Adultery should be illegal.
- Killing any vertebrate animal should be illegal.
- The means of production should be nationalized (to an extent).
- Presidential term limits should be abolished.
- All trade/economic relations with China, India, and other southeast Asian countries should be immediately halted until (many, many) more labor regulations are put in place.
- A new world organization should be put in place (toss the UN) and federalize all of the nations.
- The government should subsidize pornography.
- Literally a majority of government funds should be reallocated towards finding effective cures for diseases and increasing the human lifespan.
- We should negotiate with ISIS instead of using military force.
- Species-specific chemical castration agents should be poured into natural water sources in order to prevent animal overpopulation.
- The House and Senate should both be abolished and replaced by two new congressional chambers. The lower chamber should contain approximately 800 representatives allocated to the states based off of their population, with representatives being elected using party-list PR or STV on a state-by-state basis (no congressional districts). The upper house should contain approximately 30 representatives elected nationally using party-list PR or STV.

#radical #leftism

I would call you nuts if I didn't remember you are 14.
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« Reply #58 on: November 29, 2015, 03:33:32 PM »

- The federal government has not come anywhere near to upholding its obligations to Native American communities. Reservations should be vastly expanded by the powers of eminent domain to include productive lands. Additionally, the federal government should sponsor a development bank that focuses not only on big-ticket development but also microcredit programs on these new reservations. Tribal governments should be allowed if they choose to effectively nationalize non-native owned industries and either operate them as cooperatives for the benefit of tribal society or privatize them again into Native hands with fair distribution.

(I'd actually love to hear some thoughts about this, since I am in no way an expert on Native American affairs or tribal life, other than they're still being screwed over by a federal bureacracy that stifles development by a complex permit process and substandard lands left over from 120+ years ago)

non-native owned businesses and industrial investment are already relatively uncommon on reservations so if you are hoping to discourage them from setting up shop that's already happening.
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« Reply #59 on: November 29, 2015, 03:43:35 PM »

Basically everything, sadly.
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« Reply #60 on: November 29, 2015, 04:29:54 PM »

- The government should encourage abortion among those in the lower class.
- Incest, polygamy, etc. should be legal.
- Adultery should be illegal.
- Killing any vertebrate animal should be illegal.
- The means of production should be nationalized (to an extent).
- Presidential term limits should be abolished.
- All trade/economic relations with China, India, and other southeast Asian countries should be immediately halted until (many, many) more labor regulations are put in place.
- A new world organization should be put in place (toss the UN) and federalize all of the nations.
- The government should subsidize pornography.
- Literally a majority of government funds should be reallocated towards finding effective cures for diseases and increasing the human lifespan.
- We should negotiate with ISIS instead of using military force.
- Species-specific chemical castration agents should be poured into natural water sources in order to prevent animal overpopulation.
- The House and Senate should both be abolished and replaced by two new congressional chambers. The lower chamber should contain approximately 800 representatives allocated to the states based off of their population, with representatives being elected using party-list PR or STV on a state-by-state basis (no congressional districts). The upper house should contain approximately 30 representatives elected nationally using party-list PR or STV.

#radical #leftism

I would call you nuts if I didn't remember you are 14.
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« Reply #61 on: November 29, 2015, 04:42:31 PM »

'Radical Leftist'

'Encourage abortion in the lower classes'
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« Reply #62 on: November 29, 2015, 04:50:54 PM »


- The federal government has not come anywhere near to upholding its obligations to Native American communities. Reservations should be vastly expanded by the powers of eminent domain to include productive lands. Additionally, the federal government should sponsor a development bank that focuses not only on big-ticket development but also microcredit programs on these new reservations. Tribal governments should be allowed if they choose to effectively nationalize non-native owned industries and either operate them as cooperatives for the benefit of tribal society or privatize them again into Native hands with fair distribution.

(I'd actually love to hear some thoughts about this, since I am in no way an expert on Native American affairs or tribal life, other than they're still being screwed over by a federal bureacracy that stifles development by a complex permit process and substandard lands left over from 120+ years ago)


I tend to take an opposite opinion to this. My view is that since all persons born in the U.S. are citizens, and all citizens are entitled to the privileges and immunities of citizenship such as the bill of rights, Indians as individuals are deserving of significantly greater protections than they are currently afforded because of quasi-sovereign tribal authority. Congress passed legislation in the 1960's attempting to incorporate some of the Bill of Rights on Indian reservations but the Santa Clara Pueblo case invalidated it. Since a majority of Indians no longer live on reservations, I feel like we should be moving away from empowering tribal governments and move towards integration. Reservations have abnormally high unemployment, and tend to stifle the overall economic well-being of individual Indians. I would prefer the elimination of racial preferences, prescribed due process protections for Tribal Courts, and the abolition of any residual aboriginal title among other reforms. Either individual indians are citizens or they aren't and they shouldn't be treated like second class citizens with a separate but not-quite equal system of governance. Encouraging individual citizens to self-segregate and think of themselves as somehow different on account of race will only increase the tension, hopelessness, and problems within the Indian community. The gradual shift from federal regulation, which as you mentioned imposes burdensome restrictions across Tribes without regard to geography, to a more federalist system of local communities utilizing the same State rules other local communities have, could help development. Plus, if tribal membership supposedly matters, the federal law permitting any tribe to have criminal jurisdiction over any Indian regardless of tribal membership needs reform too.

There are already a variety of federal programs which act effectively as microloan programs. The Native American Housing Assistance and Self-Determination Act for instance creates grant and loan programs under HUD. The USDA similarly has programs for Indian housing and targeted farm loans. The Dep't of Education and HHS and Commerce all have Indian-specific development, loan and welfare programs. There are set asides in the Community Development Block Grant program. In addition to food stamps, there is a separate food aid program to offer additional assistance on reservations. Indian Tribes (and ANCs) may sometimes take advantage of loopholes in Small Business Administration contract set-asides without regard to the actual size of the businesses sub-contracted with.



On a separate note, I also think a lot more prescription drugs should be available over the counter. Things like contraception, albuterol  inhalers, insulin, adderall, epi-pens, antibiotics, and codeine cough syrups.
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« Reply #63 on: November 29, 2015, 05:37:36 PM »

- The government should encourage abortion among those in the lower class.
- Incest, polygamy, etc. should be legal.
- Adultery should be illegal.
- Killing any vertebrate animal should be illegal.
- The means of production should be nationalized (to an extent).
- Presidential term limits should be abolished.
- All trade/economic relations with China, India, and other southeast Asian countries should be immediately halted until (many, many) more labor regulations are put in place.
- A new world organization should be put in place (toss the UN) and federalize all of the nations.
- The government should subsidize pornography.
- Literally a majority of government funds should be reallocated towards finding effective cures for diseases and increasing the human lifespan.
- We should negotiate with ISIS instead of using military force.
- Species-specific chemical castration agents should be poured into natural water sources in order to prevent animal overpopulation.
- The House and Senate should both be abolished and replaced by two new congressional chambers. The lower chamber should contain approximately 800 representatives allocated to the states based off of their population, with representatives being elected using party-list PR or STV on a state-by-state basis (no congressional districts). The upper house should contain approximately 30 representatives elected nationally using party-list PR or STV.

#radical #leftism
I hope you're joking, because literally every single one of these is terrible, and many of them are borderline evil.
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« Reply #64 on: November 29, 2015, 08:50:29 PM »
« Edited: November 30, 2015, 02:23:44 AM by Moderate Hero Republican »

Cut Defense by 30%

Make everyone on welfare attend a job training program for jobs that pay $45,000-$65,000

End all Corporate Subsides for big businesses

Give corporations huge tax breaks if they hire more people in the USA and with good wages

Cut non Medicare and Medicaid healthcare spending by 30%

Transition some Public Pensions to Private  Pensions

Raise social security age to 67

Tie Student loans to the degree the student is taking

Fight ISIS in the same way the US fought the Nazis and Japanese

Cut all ties to Saudi Arabia

End all foreign aid which improve other countries militaries  unless they pay the US government back for it within 5 years.

Mandatory Death Penalty for Terrorists
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« Reply #65 on: November 29, 2015, 08:53:44 PM »

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« Reply #66 on: November 29, 2015, 08:56:36 PM »
« Edited: November 29, 2015, 08:58:35 PM by Moderate Hero Republican »


If you are talking about mine none of  these are considered mainstreem
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« Reply #67 on: November 29, 2015, 09:02:24 PM »


*gasp* 67!? How radical of you!
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« Reply #68 on: November 29, 2015, 09:25:21 PM »


Raising it even one month get a massive outcry by most people
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« Reply #69 on: November 29, 2015, 10:09:58 PM »

IMO:

Hitler went too far
Stalin should have killed less people
Nelson Mandela was a good person
A mandatory death penalty for littering would probably be a bad idea
Chocolate tastes nice
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« Reply #70 on: November 29, 2015, 10:11:25 PM »


True. But its still mainstream in that its been talked about a lot for a long time by a lot of credible people and it passing is not something that would be so shocking that it would be practically inconceivable. Like all the people proposing legalizing incest or meth or banning cars. If a state actively did one of those I would be shocked. If the federal government raised the retirement age to 67 I feel people would just be pissed.

Raising it say 80 though ... that would be out of the mainstream.
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« Reply #71 on: November 29, 2015, 10:49:17 PM »

Most of my positions probably could compete for that honor, but maybe my stance on abortion...

I'd like to see abortion banned in all cases except life of the mother.
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« Reply #72 on: November 29, 2015, 11:05:33 PM »
« Edited: November 30, 2015, 08:49:59 AM by VPH »

I'm not in favor of legalizing prostitution or pot.

If y'all want a list:
-Car importation laws should be greatly scaled back
-More exceptions should be granted to car companies on the company wide emissions/fuel efficiency guidelines
-Keep pot illegal and shift to a fine system based on income
-Keep prostitution illegal
-Ban smoking in public
-Give higher pay to state legislators
-Repeal NAFTA entirely and exit the WTO
-Overhaul the medical patent system to force companies to keep their prices down
-Give citizenship to all the undocumented migrants in the US as long as they're not criminals
-Station more troops in Europe to push back Putin
-Provide equal support to Israel and Palestine
-Use the metric system in the US
-Provide some sort of reparations for slavery
-Ban flag-burning
-Have the government buy up inner city abandoned buildings and convert them to be used as homeless shelters
-Mandate snow tires on cars in Northern states that get lots of snow
-Keep Portuguese/Spanish bullfighting legal
-Loosen border confrols with Canada

(I'll add more later)
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« Reply #73 on: November 29, 2015, 11:17:41 PM »

I'm not in favor of legalizing prostitution or pot.
-Car importation laws should be greatly scaled back and emissions restrictions on automakers should be scaled back in favor of a more incentive-based plan
Yeah the 25 year rule should at minimum be changed to a 15 year rule like in Canada.
(The second part is utter insanity of course, but whatever.)
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« Reply #74 on: November 30, 2015, 08:44:37 AM »

I'm not in favor of legalizing prostitution or pot.
-Car importation laws should be greatly scaled back and emissions restrictions on automakers should be scaled back in favor of a more incentive-based plan
Yeah the 25 year rule should at minimum be changed to a 15 year rule like in Canada.
(The second part is utter insanity of course, but whatever.)
I should probably clarify the second part. I don't think the goals set are reasonable for every company, especially sports car makers. Exceptions to the rule should be easier to obtain. I'm gonna edit and reword that for clarity. I see how it sounds bad as it was lol.
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