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Question: On a rough scale of most internationalist to most nationalist:
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Abolish all borders/nations		  
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Full integration with Canada (become one country)		  
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EU-style supranational partnership		  
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Common currency, open borders, fewer restrictions on visas		  
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Schengen Area-style agreement (no border controls, easing visa restrictions)		  
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Open borders, current visa system		  
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Ease visa policies, keep current border policies		  
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Status quo, but any official ID can be used in place of passport for travel		  
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Status quo		  
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Status quo, but with tighter visa policies		  
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Status quo, but with tighter border controls		  
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Increase border controls and visa restrictions		  
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Build a wall, treat Canada like Mexico		  
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Complete isolationism, treat Canada like Cuba pre-2015		  
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Crumpets
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« on: November 18, 2015, 02:27:09 AM »
From angus's suggestion. My personal opinion is somewhere between options 3 and 5 with an eventual eye on 2 in the distant future. I decided not to include an "invade Canada" option.
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2015, 04:03:29 AM »
Full integration preferably.  However, only on our terms (our government, flag, etc.)
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2015, 04:57:48 AM »
wtf?

no, canada shouldn't be integrated with a nation that's behind it on multiple fronts
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2015, 06:41:43 AM »
Option one.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2015, 07:10:43 AM »
Go up the scale gradually.
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2015, 10:21:14 AM »
Quote from: Green Line on November 18, 2015, 04:03:29 AM
Full integration preferably.  However, only on our terms (our government, flag, etc.)
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2015, 10:37:20 AM »

You'll pry my maple syrup from my cold dead hands!
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2015, 10:41:33 AM »
Quote from: DC Al Fine on November 18, 2015, 10:37:20 AM

You'll pry my maple syrup from my cold dead hands!
But isn't Canada cold anyways? Tongue


Seriously though, I don't want to invade Canada. This would be entirely voluntary and democratic.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2015, 10:56:19 AM »
A giant  YOU to anyone who answers one of the first four.

Until the US gets its act together when it comes to gun control (i.e. never), the borders should not be an open free for all.
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2015, 11:03:29 AM »
Quote from: Lt. Governor Kent stands with France on November 18, 2015, 10:41:33 AM
Quote from: DC Al Fine on November 18, 2015, 10:37:20 AM

You'll pry my maple syrup from my cold dead hands!
But isn't Canada cold anyways? Tongue


Seriously though, I don't want to invade Canada. This would be entirely voluntary and democratic.

Why would Canada want to voluntarily or democratically join us?
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2015, 11:16:39 AM »
The Canadian Wall was Scott Walker's greatest contribution to political discourse
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2015, 11:47:12 AM »
Status quo but with any official ID.
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2015, 02:46:41 PM »
Hehe, I like the one person who voted for the last option.
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2015, 03:42:08 PM »
Status quo, but with tighter border controls.

I definitely do not support merging the US and Canada into one country, or forming some kind of EU-esque supranational union.
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2015, 04:28:06 PM »
"Complete isolationism, treat Canada like Cuba pre-2015"

Is such an aggressive policy really "isolationist?"
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2015, 04:32:23 PM »
54'40" or fight, obviously.
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2015, 04:57:06 PM »
Quote from: 🍁 Hatman on November 18, 2015, 10:56:19 AM
A giant  YOU to anyone who answers one of the first four.

Until the US Canada gets its act together when it comes to gun control (i.e. never hopefully), the borders should not be an open free for all.
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2015, 09:22:54 PM »
I'm beyond astonished that anyone is seriously voting for the first four options. I voted status quo. I could possibly see myself supporting a schengen style situation for travel, though.
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2015, 11:31:21 PM »
Canada and the US have such distinct cultures. It would be shameful to merge them.
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2015, 11:56:25 PM »
Quote from: VPH on November 18, 2015, 11:31:21 PM
Canada and the US have such distinct cultures. It would be shameful to merge them.

Ha. I see the Northern United States everywhere but Quebec and the remnants of Acadia. Even if Canada is distinct from the actual northern US, it's still a much smaller difference; Ontario and Massachusetts have more in common than Massachusetts and Alabama.

However there is a difference in political culture at least somewhat. So while I'd love to see a full unification a schengen style situation is a more reasonable and rational goal that will benefit both countries and won't be as difficult for some American conservatives and Canadian nationalists (lol) to swallow. Let Canadians and Americans enter and exit both nations without unnecessary bureaucracy or fuss. 
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2015, 01:00:05 AM »
« Edited: November 19, 2015, 01:02:43 AM by Snowguy716 »
Our policy towards Canada should be utter contempt via passive aggressive means.  Like build a 2 foot tall border fence that plays the american national anthem at loud volume constantly along the entire border.

My srs response... A schengen like agreement.
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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2015, 03:26:58 AM »
Quote from: VPH on November 18, 2015, 11:47:12 AM
Status quo but with any official ID.
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2015, 04:02:54 AM »
Quote from: VPH on November 18, 2015, 11:31:21 PM
Canada and the US have such distinct cultures. It would be shameful to merge them.

I like Canada and all, but "such distinct culture" is generous.
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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2015, 06:35:39 AM »
Adding Canada would move the country significantly to the left, not burden the economy, possibly put the US in a stronger defense position (or at least not harm it), and allow easy access for me to some cool places. I would definitely favor adding Canada to the US if that's what they wanted. Since they don't, I voted for less travel restrictions.
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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2015, 10:45:39 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Reactionary on November 18, 2015, 04:57:06 PM
Quote from: 🍁 Hatman on November 18, 2015, 10:56:19 AM
A giant  YOU to anyone who answers one of the first four.

Until the US Canada gets its act together when it comes to gun control (i.e. never hopefully), the borders should not be an open free for all.

Why should Canada's gun laws matter to the US?

The illegal importation of guns into Canada is a problem, and would be worsened with fewer border restrictions. I don't see how our strict gun laws in any way impede the US and would further impede the US with more open borders.

Or are you just an idiot who doesn't understand logic?
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