CO-Quinnipiac: Dems getting crushed, Sanders does slightly better than Hillary

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Against Carson, but against Trump, it will be very close. But, Jeb given, before downfall will have won it.

[5280]

Could Colorado win by 8-10% over the Democrat candidate for the 2016 presidential election?

[EliteLX]

Junk poll, Hillary wouldn't lose CO by half that much in a Pepiblican landslide.

You are living an illusion as big as ExtremeRepublican's electoral map predictions if you think CO is that safe in Hillary's hands come 2016, friend.

The Carson numbers are unreal, he wont win by this much, and poll after poll, he keeps large leads. AS was stated earlier, QU has a GOP bias in CO, 2014, they incorrectly had Beauprez winning. Final poll had him up by 2.

Co will be close at end.

Agreed. I believe we're mainly arguing the same point. :-)

2016 will be a bit of a different landscape for the rocky state with Hillary on the ticket and as long as the GOP doesn't succeed in nominating one of the ninwits then CO is reasonably anyone's to take and will come down pretty close. Within <2% either direction.

[Cruzcrew]

While these numbers are clearly questionable, colorado is certainly cold to hillary and this state might be R+1 or R+2 range against hillary.

[Senator Cris]

Junk poll, Hillary wouldn't lose CO by half that much in a Pepiblican landslide.

You are living an illusion as big as ExtremeRepublican's electoral map predictions if you think CO is that safe in Hillary's hands come 2016, friend.

The Carson numbers are unreal, he wont win by this much, and poll after poll, he keeps large leads. AS was stated earlier, QU has a GOP bias in CO, 2014, they incorrectly had Beauprez winning. Final poll had him up by 2.

Co will be close at end.

They also had Gardner winning by 2 and Gardner won by exactly 2 points.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

While these numbers are clearly questionable, colorado is certainly cold to hillary and this state might be R+1 or R+2 range against hillary.

Do, you believe these numbers and Bennet is winning 50-44. CO has mail in ballots and it is one of the four tipping pt states other than Iowa,Va, or OH.

[Devils30]

Q had Gardner up 8 the whole time and cheated at the end to conform to other pollsters. I'm sure Trump will withstand the scrutiny if he is actually nominee.... .

[Coolface Sock #42069]

Lots of "I don't like this poll, so it's junk" posts in here.

But seriously, what does Colorado have against the Clintons?

[Rockefeller GOP]

So sad that such a progressive state is turning into a southern-style GOP hellhole so fast.

You seriously are sounding way dumber lately.  Check your inflated image of your party (a collection of liberal arts majors and poor people), and consider that you don't have to be "southern-style" or a "hellhole" to vote Republican.  And, if anything, CO is returning closer to its traditional status after being abnormally attracted to Obama.  It's not "such a progressive state" and many of its voters have a "stay out of my life" attitude that doesn't lend itself well to your nanny-state policies on fiscal issues and gun rights.

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well

[pbrower2a]

Republicans gain support in the wake of terror attacks, as they usually talk tougher than Democrats. Republicans in recent years have been able to get away with the harshest, cruelest, and even most irrational rhetoric (Kill! Smash Islam! Ban Sharia Law! Keep Syrian refugees out! Maybe even loose the nukes!)

It might not be good public policy, but it is the strongest tool that Republicans have in their campaign.

We may be seeing this now, and for now it looks bad for Democrats. The Colorado polls may reflect this. Live with it. If it sticks, then expect Democrats to lose the Presidency and even net losses in the Senate as Republicans make serious bids at Senate seats that now seem safe.

President Obama plays chess, and his opponents play slot machines. He also seems to prefer to serve revenge cold (pardon the Star Trek reference). He blusters only after the fact. He has the tact to let the French do the current air assault on ISIS.

Colorado has swung in recent years from a very right-wing state to a slightly-liberal state. Maybe that reflects exhaustion of agendas that give openings one way or the other.

So how has the state voted?

2012 51-46
2008 53-46
2004 47-52
2000 42-50 (Nader 5)
1996 44-46 (Perot 7)
1992 40-35 (Perot 22)

Colorado may be cyclical. The Colorado Right is about as far to the right as the Wyoming Right; the Colorado Left is about as far to the left as the California Left. Maybe a few years after one Party gets a majority it goes too far for the swing voters and the state then swings. The state seems to vote to an unusual extent for Third Part candidates (it gave 11% of its vote for Anderson in 1980).

That's one possibility. The other for now is that for now, the prospective electorate nationwide looks like one characteristic of 2010 or 2014, in which case America elects a very right-wing President and strengthens the GOP hold on both Houses of Congress. Another is that demographics return the 2008-2012 pattern in Colorado and we have a blip that won't stick. Pick your interpretation. You have no accountability for it now.

It's easy to see a cycle as a long-term trend.  How can we know the difference? We can't. Extrapolation of a short-term trend that does not have some irresistible cause is one of the riskiest projections possible. Republicans are not going to win 100% of the vote in a free election in West Virginia.

  

 

[Xing]

Junk poll, Hillary wouldn't lose CO by half that much in a Pepiblican landslide.

You are living an illusion as big as ExtremeRepublican's electoral map predictions if you think CO is that safe in Hillary's hands come 2016, friend.

I wasn't arguing it was safe for Hillary, I was arguing that she'd only lose it by mid-high single digits in a Republican landslide, since Republicans would have to win the popular vote by a similar margin.

Colorado will probably be close. It's not New Mexico, but people who think it's Safe R are the delusional ones, not me.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

lol quinnijunk

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Trump's surge in polls, isnt substainable. He will go back down when the General election comes around and Clinton should pick a VP like Hickenlooper that appeals to CO.

[pbrower2a]

lol quinnijunk

It makes sense in view of a terrorist strike that brings out the worst fears in people even if it is in another country. Fear promotes right-wing authoritarians, and all Republican candidates for President are right-wing authoritarians. Not one of the prospective nominees for President is simply a conservative who prefers a measured response to danger than exploiting fear for every possible advantage.

Polls this week in Florida, Iowa, and New Hampshire show much the same trend. It's not only Colorado. If the Presidential election were to be held today, then just about any Republican nominee would defeat Hillary Clinton in a landslide.  Such is this moment of time. The only states with ten or more electoral votes that she would win would be California, Washington, Wisconsin, New York, Maryland, Massachusetts, and perhaps New Jersey.  You can fill in the gaps in the description, but in general the only state that Hillary Clinton would win if the election were held today the only states that aren't on the Atlantic or Pacific coasts would be Vermont and Wisconsin. It is that bad.

Right-wing authoritarians thrive on fear -- fear of ethnic and racial minorities, fear of crime, fear of terrorism, fear of conspiracies, fear of other religions, fear of Divine judgment, fear of hostile powers, fear of arcane conspiracies, and fear of the general demise of civilization. Solutions? Such would take away the appeal of fear-mongers and the whole basis of right-wing authoritarianism. It's hard to sell people on hierarchy, inequality, and repression for their own sake if they endure them; people tolerate them only in fear. Oddly a real danger that requires some economic regimentation (global warming) is out of their sight.

Although there is some diversity among objects of fear of right-wing authoritarians, fear is the cornerstone of them all. Adolf Hitler had little to offer but fear, and had no qualms about provoking the most destructive assaults by foreign enemies as proof of some apocalyptic danger. We all know about the Klan and the Birch Society. Theocratic rightists like Mike Huckabee and Pat Robertson may eschew racism (modern antisemitism is racist in its seedy philosophizing) but see a deterioration of Christian faith as the cause of an impending ruin of Western civilization.   

Radical reforms (the Far Left) or even measured responses (conservatism) might work better in solving problems, but they require rational thought.  Because it is his nature President Obama can hardly consider anything other than a measured response to a terrorist threat. Unlike the authoritarian Right which can bluster as intensely and recklessly as it wishes while calling the President 'weak' and 'indecisive'. Republicans gain in a climate of fear and lose only when either someone else solves the problem or the Republicans fail catastrophically.

That 'weak' and 'indecisive' President has dispatched plenty of terrorists to the Infernal Inn that the damned never check out of.  I expect more of the same.   

[Cruzcrew]

While these numbers are clearly questionable, colorado is certainly cold to hillary and this state might be R+1 or R+2 range against hillary.

Do, you believe these numbers and Bennet is winning 50-44. CO has mail in ballots and it is one of the four tipping pt states other than Iowa,Va, or OH.

You'd think mail in ballots would've prevented Cory Gardner from winning too. Anyways, the right republican candidate who can increase margins among anti establishment white voters and Latino voters can definitely turn this state republican for the election. We aren't talking an election against Obama but Hillary who the anti establishment Colorado electorate is much cooler to.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

PPP poll has yet to poll this race, which take out the GOP house effect will poll at some point. Poll done Oct 28th showed a 1pt Clinton lead. It will be with 3-4 percent, not 9.

OH/Va/Iowa/CO are the tippong points, of the election

[EliteLX]

So sad that such a progressive state is turning into a southern-style GOP hellhole so fast.

You seriously are sounding way dumber lately.  Check your inflated image of your party (a collection of liberal arts majors and poor people), and consider that you don't have to be "southern-style" or a "hellhole" to vote Republican.  And, if anything, CO is returning closer to its traditional status after being abnormally attracted to Obama.  It's not "such a progressive state" and many of its voters have a "stay out of my life" attitude that doesn't lend itself well to your nanny-state policies on fiscal issues and gun rights.

[5280]

I could see Marco Rubio winning CO by at least 5-10% if Hillary Clinton was on the ballot.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

You are puttuing alot on Rubio being nominee, if he isnt, then GOP chances fade.

[RFayette]

So sad that such a progressive state is turning into a southern-style GOP hellhole so fast.

You seriously are sounding way dumber lately.  Check your inflated image of your party (a collection of liberal arts majors and poor people), and consider that you don't have to be "southern-style" or a "hellhole" to vote Republican.  And, if anything, CO is returning closer to its traditional status after being abnormally attracted to Obama.  It's not "such a progressive state" and many of its voters have a "stay out of my life" attitude that doesn't lend itself well to your nanny-state policies on fiscal issues and gun rights.

This is true, but I'd add that there's nothing wrong with an area being a little more "redneck-y" or "Southern."  I think those are great aspects of our culture; I love the fact that those areas "cling to their guns and religion" rather than to secular humanism or liberalism, much to our President's chagrin.  If the Democrats weren't so blatant in their bashing of the South, maybe they'd do better in those areas.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

So sad that such a progressive state is turning into a southern-style GOP hellhole so fast.

You seriously are sounding way dumber lately.  Check your inflated image of your party (a collection of liberal arts majors and poor people), and consider that you don't have to be "southern-style" or a "hellhole" to vote Republican.  And, if anything, CO is returning closer to its traditional status after being abnormally attracted to Obama.  It's not "such a progressive state" and many of its voters have a "stay out of my life" attitude that doesn't lend itself well to your nanny-state policies on fiscal issues and gun rights.

This is true, but I'd add that there's nothing wrong with an area being a little more "redneck-y" or "Southern."  I think those are great aspects of our culture; I love the fact that those areas "cling to their guns and religion" rather than to secular humanism or liberalism, much to our President's chagrin.  If the Democrats weren't so blatant in their bashing of the South, maybe they'd do better in those areas.

QU uses Registered voters, and just like in Pa, it polls right before the Likley voter polls come out. That's why it is 9 points towards GOP.

Trump or Carson or Rubio arent going to win Colorado by that size margin. It polls close to natl average.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Also call BS...throw it in the trash

[5280]

While these numbers are clearly questionable, colorado is certainly cold to hillary and this state might be R+1 or R+2 range against hillary.

I would say the election for 2016 in Colorado would be:

47% Hillary
52% Republican candidate

Roughly a 5 pt margin

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Clinton is gonna pick up some Latino support when she selects Castro as VP and not Kaine. Kaine's was already discounted by teamsters due to vote on Fast Track.