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« on: November 18, 2015, 03:53:09 PM »

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/16/the-counted-killed-by-police-1000
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2015, 04:30:53 PM »

Pretty meaningless without a baseline to compare it to.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2015, 04:47:37 PM »

Pretty meaningless without a baseline to compare it to.

The lack of annual comparisons does not make this meaningless. There are plenty of more detailed statistics at the site if that is what you seek.
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2015, 10:14:58 PM »


Well I am shocked SHOCKED that the police are most out of control in the most right wing state. We should be ashamed of these numbers.

Pretty meaningless without a baseline to compare it to.

National statistics for this aren't kept, so they have to start somewhere. (By a foreign newspaper no less, maybe because American ones are too scared of police retaliation).

1,000 people killed doesn't strike you as an unusually high, regardless of circumstances? It's not like every one of them was armed.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2015, 10:24:12 PM »

Gonna need to hear how many of them were armed, how many of them were driving a car straight at the officers, etc.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2015, 12:24:46 AM »
« Edited: November 19, 2015, 12:28:54 AM by realisticidealist »

1,000 people killed doesn't strike you as an unusually high, regardless of circumstances?

Not inherently, no. There are over 1.2 million police officers in the US. If the deaths are evenly distributed, for every one cop who has killed someone, there are over 1,200 who haven't. In 2010, there were over 13 million arrests in the US; 1,000 deaths implies less than 0.008% of police interactions (not including traffic violations) end in deaths. That doesn't seem outlandish for a very dangerous line of work. But as I said, we really need more years of data to draw meaningful conclusions about whether this is unusually high or not.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2015, 12:31:06 PM »

This is a worthy endeavor. I'm a big advocate of police departments having to report fatalities to federal authorities, just seems like common sense. This is hopelessly politically slanted if it doesn't include how many people were armed vs. unarmed though.
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2015, 07:38:59 PM »

1,000 people killed doesn't strike you as an unusually high, regardless of circumstances?

Not inherently, no. There are over 1.2 million police officers in the US. If the deaths are evenly distributed, for every one cop who has killed someone, there are over 1,200 who haven't. In 2010, there were over 13 million arrests in the US; 1,000 deaths implies less than 0.008% of police interactions (not including traffic violations) end in deaths. That doesn't seem outlandish for a very dangerous line of work. But as I said, we really need more years of data to draw meaningful conclusions about whether this is unusually high or not.

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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2015, 11:23:47 PM »

1,000 people killed doesn't strike you as an unusually high, regardless of circumstances?

Not inherently, no. There are over 1.2 million police officers in the US. If the deaths are evenly distributed, for every one cop who has killed someone, there are over 1,200 who haven't. In 2010, there were over 13 million arrests in the US; 1,000 deaths implies less than 0.008% of police interactions (not including traffic violations) end in deaths. That doesn't seem outlandish for a very dangerous line of work. But as I said, we really need more years of data to draw meaningful conclusions about whether this is unusually high or not.
Excellent post.

Gonna need to hear how many of them were armed, how many of them were driving a car straight at the officers, etc.
Yeah, the majority of people who get killed by cops aren't that sympathetic.
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2015, 01:18:52 AM »

The Washington Post has their own count of police shootings which is searchable and pretty interesting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/

They have the number at 871.  Out of that, 80 were unarmed. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2015, 07:05:36 PM »

1,000 people killed doesn't strike you as an unusually high, regardless of circumstances?

Not inherently, no. There are over 1.2 million police officers in the US. If the deaths are evenly distributed, for every one cop who has killed someone, there are over 1,200 who haven't. In 2010, there were over 13 million arrests in the US; 1,000 deaths implies less than 0.008% of police interactions (not including traffic violations) end in deaths. That doesn't seem outlandish for a very dangerous line of work.

Except that 13 million arrests is a staggering number. Doesn't this number bother you? The U.S. should stop incarcerating its people. Talk about "government overreach"!
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