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Question: If the GOP loses in 2016, who becomes the 2020 front-runner?
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House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI)
 
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U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)
 
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Gov. Susana Martinez (R-NM)
 
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Gov. Nikki Haley (R-SC)
 
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Gov. John Kasich (R-OH)
 
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U.S. Senator Rob Portman (R-OH)
 
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U.S. Senator John Thune (R-SD)
 
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Businessman John Catsimatidis (R-NY)
 
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U.S. Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
 
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Gov. Rick Snyder (R-MI)
 
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U.S. Senator Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
 
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Businessman Mark Cuban (R-TX)
 
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Businessman Herman Cain (R-GA)
 
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« on: November 19, 2015, 12:21:48 AM »

If the GOP loses in 2016, who becomes the 2020 front-runner?
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2015, 12:23:18 AM »

Where's the Donald Trump option?
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2015, 12:23:44 AM »

If the GOP loses in 2016, who becomes the 2020 front-runner?

Depends why they lose.

If the GOP loses the Hispanic vote by a huge margin then they immediately start promoting hispanic candidates like Martinez (or Rubio/Cruz if they're not the nominee).

Otherwise I think if Paul Ryan does a good job as speaker of the house he'll be the runaway favorite for the nomination.
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2015, 12:28:17 AM »

Ryan, Cuban, and Cruz (if he isn't the 2016 nominee) are the frontrunners.
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2015, 01:31:14 AM »

This election will be Trump's only chance to win the nomination. Of course, if he wins and runs against Clinton, he has a good shot at winning in 2016 and maybe even 2020. If he doesn't win the nomination in 2016, however, Trump is done. In 2020, people will barely remember his campaign.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2015, 01:40:03 AM »

This election will be Trump's only chance to win the nomination. Of course, if he wins and runs against Clinton, he has a good shot at winning in 2016 and maybe even 2020. If he doesn't win the nomination in 2016, however, Trump is done. In 2020, people will barely remember his campaign.

I agree that this is Trump's one shot -- after all, if he doesn't win it now, I don't see how circumstances will be better for him in another election.  The combination of a large and weak field, thus, fragmenting his opposition without allowing a real challenger to emerge, the mood of the country, and a series of fortuitous news stories working in his favor (i.e. Kate Steinle's death occurring just as the media storm about his wall hit fever pitch) along with the novelty of his campaign are major factors in his continued success.

However, if he loses, I seriously doubt that he will be forgotten or barely remembered, even in twenty years.  There's a lot that students of history can learn from his campaign.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2015, 01:40:49 AM »

This election will be Trump's only chance to win the nomination. Of course, if he wins and runs against Clinton, he has a good shot at winning in 2016 and maybe even 2020. If he doesn't win the nomination in 2016, however, Trump is done. In 2020, people will barely remember his campaign.

I think you're talking about Sanders.
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2015, 01:51:36 AM »

Ryan - The guy loves the house, and now he's top dog. Even if he eventually gets sick of being speaker, I think him going back to being a committee chairman is more likely than him running for president.

Rubio - Well, he'd probably be Governor Rubio, and want to stay there.

Martinez/Haley/Kasich/Thune - legitimate possibilities

Portman - He has to get reelected in 2016 first, but assuming he does, he's a legitimate possibility as well.

Castimatidis - random businessman with low name rec. who can't even win a mayoral primary. Next.

Flake/Snyder/Ayotte - I don't think they're seriously interested in the job

Cuban - Who?

Cain - The sex scandald 999 guy? Seriously?

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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2015, 08:46:28 AM »

Joni Ernst is the Sarah Palin of the GOP right now. She's never becoming the nominee.
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2015, 09:08:15 AM »

Cuban, wont run against Clinton. His fan base are African Americans who beloves Clinton. Thune may have a chance if Rubio is gov of FL  But, Speaker Ryan is obviously the frontrunner.
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2015, 11:24:31 AM »

Where is Tim Scott?
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2015, 11:56:03 AM »

Definitely not Ryan. There is no way he leaves the House.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2015, 12:28:34 PM »

This election will be Trump's only chance to win the nomination. Of course, if he wins and runs against Clinton, he has a good shot at winning in 2016 and maybe even 2020. If he doesn't win the nomination in 2016, however, Trump is done. In 2020, people will barely remember his campaign.

I think you're talking about Sanders.
The same can be said about Sanders, but the topic of this post is the GOP's performance in 2016 and 2020, not Sanders or the Democrats. If Sanders doesn't win the nomination this cycle, of course his presidential chances are finished.
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2015, 09:16:30 PM »

Your options are weird.

Front-runners: Paul, Ernst, Cruz, Cotton
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2015, 09:20:36 PM »

Marco Rubio. He has options though. Does he run for Florida governor or Senate against Bill Nelson in 2018, or does he wait in 2020 to run, or the 2020's.
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2015, 06:44:39 AM »

Ivanka Trump
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2015, 08:03:37 AM »

Imagine what this poll would be like in December 2010...
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2015, 09:46:58 PM »

Imagine what this poll would be like in December 2010...

We did have a discussion of 2016 frontrunners back in November 2011:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=143297.0
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2015, 07:07:03 PM »

Imagine what this poll would be like in December 2010...

We did have a discussion of 2016 frontrunners back in November 2011:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=143297.0


Ah, 2011. When we expected a frontrunner Chris Christie and a competitive Democratic field.
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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2015, 02:38:26 AM »

A Rubio vs. Ryan showdown for the nomination would be so much fun.
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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2015, 03:17:44 PM »
« Edited: December 21, 2015, 03:22:04 PM by OC »

And in either case, Clinton will be favored for reelection.  If the GOP couldnt defeat Obama with Romney, the Senate map which is clearly are duplicate of 2016, favors Clinton in CO, NC & Iowa, Dem pickup of GOP seats.

Ryan wants to repeal Obamacare and turn medicaid private. Like he ran on in 2012.  But, there will be a tea party candidate , like Ted Cruz, his name is Tom Cotton.
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2015, 04:57:36 AM »

Depends on the 2016 loser, but I'll go with Jeff Flake. Not very visiable this time, but I think he's very ambicious.
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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2015, 08:58:42 PM »

A Rubio vs. Ryan showdown for the nomination would be so much fun.

That'd be fun.

I think Cruz will be up there, as well as Paul. Can see them making a 2nd run of it.
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« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2015, 06:35:12 AM »

Florida Governor Marco Rubio.
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« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2015, 09:11:32 AM »
« Edited: December 25, 2015, 09:13:04 AM by OC »

If Rubio is Gov, I doubt he will run 2 yrs after leaving office. Ryan is definately a frontrunner.
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