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« on: November 24, 2015, 10:28:29 AM »

Has President Obama fallen into the same trap as his predecessor regarding intelligence reports that don't line up with the desired administration position/narrative? It's clear that President Bush failed to give proper weight to reports indicating that there were no WMDs in Iraq, having surrounded himself with those believing WMDs were a foregone conclusion. Now we hear about similar problems having occurred in the Obama administration with regard to reports about the rise of ISIS and issues with decisions made concerning Iraq. Comments?
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2015, 12:45:09 PM »

Oh I doubt this stuff was limited to Obama and Dubya.   
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2015, 01:28:02 PM »

Just finished reading a book called "Superforecasting" (recommend).  One of the stories it tells is about the CIA division who's job it was to predict the odds of things like "Would the Bay of Pigs be successful".  The report assessed the chances as "fair"  which Kennedy regarded to be a positive assessment.  After the fact, the head of the division asked his staff to assign a percentage to term "fair" and he got answers ranging from 30 to 80 percent.  Appalled, the head wanted to establish a standardized scale between words and percentages (Excellent-80 Good-66 Average-50 Fair-33 Poor-20)  and was totally rejected by the higher ups.  The need for CYA is very powerful.  In fact, it apparently was considered a huge breakthrough in the forecasting world that percentages were used in the discussion on the raid that killed Osama.

As for ISIS specifically, even before Paris there was an internal assessment within the administration that they hadn't been as effective in cutting of oil income to ISIS as they thought, so they've made a change in strategy (sorry truck drivers).

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