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« on: November 24, 2015, 10:31:59 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2015, 10:37:56 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2015, 11:09:50 AM »

A shooting at a BLM protest and Turkey shooting down Russian warplane! What a great night.

I'm sure GOP presidential frontrunner Donald Trump will have a reasonable statement on both matters to prevent any potential escalation.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2015, 11:41:17 AM »

But remember, it's the Syrian refugees we should be worried about getting violent!
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2015, 12:02:33 PM »
« Edited: November 24, 2015, 12:05:37 PM by realisticidealist »

Sounds like the BLM people assaulted the assailants initially. Regardless, no one died or was critically injured. I fear that won't always be the case going forward.

EDIT: Looks like that video comes from an unfortunate source, though that doesn't necessarily make it false. Either way, we don't have all the facts yet.
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2015, 01:05:50 PM »

More white Christian terrorism. Very sad.
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2015, 01:32:41 PM »

Like everything else that Black Lives Matter protestors throw out there, this story is falling apart as people actually get the facts.
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2015, 01:49:49 PM »

Sounds like Senator Sherrod Brown and Mayor Mike Rawlings were right.
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2015, 01:50:43 PM »

Like everything else that Black Lives Matter protestors throw out there, this story is falling apart as people actually get the facts.

what are you even talking about
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2015, 01:55:31 PM »

Like everything else that Black Lives Matter protestors throw out there, this story is falling apart as people actually get the facts.

what are you even talking about

The footage of the white counter-protestors being assaulted?
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2015, 01:58:19 PM »

Like everything else that Black Lives Matter protestors throw out there, this story is falling apart as people actually get the facts.

what are you even talking about

The footage of the white counter-protestors being assaulted?

ah, yes

assaulting white supremacists (scummy people, but i'll call it assault because justice is supposed to be blind) clearly calls for fycking shooting people.
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2015, 02:18:03 PM »

Like everything else that Black Lives Matter protestors throw out there, this story is falling apart as people actually get the facts.

what are you even talking about

The footage of the white counter-protestors being assaulted?

ah, yes

assaulting white supremacists (scummy people, but i'll call it assault because justice is supposed to be blind) clearly calls for fycking shooting people.

Well, that really depends on what the laws are regarding concealed carry and self-defense in Minnesota.

Putting aside our mutual distaste for white supremacists, if a group is set upon by another group and assaulted, firing a few non-lethal shots to wound and scare off the crowd seems like a reasonable reaction.
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2015, 02:28:37 PM »

Like everything else that Black Lives Matter protestors throw out there, this story is falling apart as people actually get the facts.

what are you even talking about

The footage of the white counter-protestors being assaulted?

you mean the armed, violent white supremacists being chased out of an anti-white-supremacy protest by unarmed protesters?
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2015, 03:51:15 PM »

Like everything else that Black Lives Matter protestors throw out there, this story is falling apart as people actually get the facts.

what are you even talking about

The footage of the white counter-protestors being assaulted?

ah, yes

assaulting white supremacists (scummy people, but i'll call it assault because justice is supposed to be blind) clearly calls for fycking shooting people.

Well, that really depends on what the laws are regarding concealed carry and self-defense in Minnesota.

Putting aside our mutual distaste for white supremacists, if a group is set upon by another group and assaulted, firing a few non-lethal shots to wound and scare off the crowd seems like a reasonable reaction.

Jesus Christ.  Shooting people is a reasonable response to the threat of death or grievous injury.  It's not something you can do if you feel unsafe or fearful.  I'm pretty sure that's the law everywhere in the United States. 
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2015, 03:51:41 PM »

surprise, surprise. wonder if the far-righters on here will admit they were wrong.
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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2015, 04:18:53 PM »

Like everything else that Black Lives Matter protestors throw out there, this story is falling apart as people actually get the facts.

what are you even talking about

The footage of the white counter-protestors being assaulted?

ah, yes

assaulting white supremacists (scummy people, but i'll call it assault because justice is supposed to be blind) clearly calls for fycking shooting people.

Well, that really depends on what the laws are regarding concealed carry and self-defense in Minnesota.

Putting aside our mutual distaste for white supremacists, if a group is set upon by another group and assaulted, firing a few non-lethal shots to wound and scare off the crowd seems like a reasonable reaction.

Jesus Christ.  Shooting people is a reasonable response to the threat of death or grievous injury.  It's not something you can do if you feel unsafe or fearful.  I'm pretty sure that's the law everywhere in the United States. 

It's not "feeling unsafe" if you're actually in the process of being assaulted. That's where self-defense kicks in.

Watching the video and reading the follow-ups, it really seems like these Neo-Nazi thugs were likely looking for trouble and ready to shoot at the first provocation, though. Hope they round them up and prosecute them.
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2015, 04:44:38 PM »

Like everything else that Black Lives Matter protestors throw out there, this story is falling apart as people actually get the facts.

what are you even talking about

The footage of the white counter-protestors being assaulted?

ah, yes

assaulting white supremacists (scummy people, but i'll call it assault because justice is supposed to be blind) clearly calls for fycking shooting people.

Well, that really depends on what the laws are regarding concealed carry and self-defense in Minnesota.

Putting aside our mutual distaste for white supremacists, if a group is set upon by another group and assaulted, firing a few non-lethal shots to wound and scare off the crowd seems like a reasonable reaction.

Jesus Christ.  Shooting people is a reasonable response to the threat of death or grievous injury.  It's not something you can do if you feel unsafe or fearful.  I'm pretty sure that's the law everywhere in the United States. 

It's not "feeling unsafe" if you're actually in the process of being assaulted. That's where self-defense kicks in.

Watching the video and reading the follow-ups, it really seems like these Neo-Nazi thugs were likely looking for trouble and ready to shoot at the first provocation, though. Hope they round them up and prosecute them.

Assaulted can mean a lot of different things.  You can assault someone by shoving them.  You can assault someone by stabbing them with a knife.  But, it needs to be reasonable self-defense in defense of their life.

And, they have arrested two people, one white and one Hispanic.   
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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2015, 04:47:18 PM »

More proof that every AA in the country needs an AR
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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2015, 05:33:58 PM »

Like everything else that Black Lives Matter protestors throw out there, this story is falling apart as people actually get the facts.

what are you even talking about

The footage of the white counter-protestors being assaulted?
One of them appears to have been Hispanic.

Two have been arrested.

The Times has a report.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/us/minneapolis-shooting-protest-police-jamar-clark.html

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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2015, 05:34:03 PM »


Doesn't say anything about planning on shooting people.

There seem to be multiple parties in the wrong here. That much hasn't changed. The counter-protesters aimed to incite. The protesters took the bait and attacked them. The counter-protesters attacked back. Ideally, they all go to jail for a while.
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2015, 05:41:26 PM »

Doesn't say anything about planning on shooting people.

There seem to be multiple parties in the wrong here. That much hasn't changed. The counter-protesters aimed to incite. The protesters took the bait and attacked them. The counter-protesters attacked back. Ideally, they all go to jail for a while.

In civilized northern European democracies only the animals that shot would go to jail.
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2015, 11:01:32 PM »

Whoa and I thought of going to this protest!

Well I bet they will only escalate now obviously.

(BTW someone graffited "Justice 4 Jamal" on a wooden fence right near my apartment.)
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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2015, 12:07:21 AM »

http://www.citypages.com/news/armed-white-supremacists-threaten-protesters-at-fourth-precinct-shutdown-7847606

(Note the date)
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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2015, 03:04:33 AM »

The shooting was horrible, but the BLM, did assault counter-protesters. Though the anti-BLM are objectively hundreds of times worse.
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2017, 08:37:38 PM »

So the shooter was convicted and sentenced to 15 years: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2017/04/26/jamar-clark-protest-shooter-scarsella-gets-15-years

I also heard elsewhere that his parents moved back to Texas where they were originally from because they were effectively outcast by their neighbors and social circles.

Two of his friends also took plea bargains to related charges, another two had charges dismissed because it was revealed they weren't present with him at the actual shooting and weren't involved in the post coverup.
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