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« on: November 25, 2015, 12:25:30 PM »


274-264

Republicans lose both Pennsylvania and Virginia, but still manage to win the election.
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2015, 12:30:15 PM »

Dems wont lose Iowa and NV, but win Va.
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2015, 12:31:09 PM »

/Nevada
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2015, 12:32:06 PM »

No
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2015, 12:35:01 PM »

I think it is a plausible map. Depending on who the candidates will be in the election.
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2015, 01:12:02 PM »

It's a plausible map with a Rubio/Sandoval ticket.
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2015, 01:16:38 PM »

Sure.

Rubio gets the nomination, Sandoval is his running mate  Rubio veers left on immigration.

Clinton has Kaine as her running mate. She is never quite able to shake off her untrustworthiness issues.

Most likely we wouldn't know the result until the morning after.  At least one of Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, or Ohio will be very close.

My one concern with this scenario is how tenable would a flip on immigration be for Rubio.  It might be difficult for him to pull off without a big backlash, especially if Trump and/or Cruz make the primary fight for him difficult.
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2015, 01:32:07 PM »

I think she'll pick Castro (who is, in my opinion, overrated).
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2015, 01:36:07 PM »

Plausible? Maybe. Improbable? definitely.
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2015, 01:39:26 PM »
« Edited: November 25, 2015, 01:42:23 PM by President Griffin »

Dems wont lose Iowa and NV, but win Va.

I've been saying for some time now that Virginia is the quickest shifting state in the country at this point. There's obviously going to be some instances of "two steps forward, one step back" when it comes to mid-terms versus presidential elections and local/state elections versus national elections, but I would say Virginia flipped on the national level at some point in 2006 or 2007 and has been moving further into the Democratic column ever since. Virginia is at least as Democratic as Pennsylvania is and by 2016, could be on par with Wisconsin or Michigan.



Virginia's left-ward trajectory has been apparent since 2006, but it has been shifting since before then in theory due to the realignment to some degree of where each party positions itself relative to the center. With each passing election, it's definitely more and more possible that Dems win VA but lose IA, and sooner or later, it will happen.

I do have a hard time believing that we could win VA but lose NV in 2016, but it is possible under a very unique set of circumstances (one where the R nominee pulls Bush-04 levels of support from Latinos & Asians but AA support remains just slightly below Obama 2012 levels) and just like with IA/depending on how long-term Latino support for Ds unfolds, carrying VA and losing NV could become the norm.



But yeah, NV is about all that is wrong with this map...it's not impossible or anything, but it's unlikely in 2016 given the VA variable. If a R is able to win NV then it means he is receiving damn near 45% of the Latino vote and that would likely impact the national numbers to a great degree (might even result in NM flipping).
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2015, 01:40:38 PM »

Rubio/Heller v. Clinton/McAuliffe

Rubio tacts towards the center largely, makes a deal with Trump to get him to not run third party by pledging to re-negotiate the deals with Iran and the TPP (instead of immigration). Picks the moderate and popular Heller to be his VP in a surprise. Clinton runs with McAuliffe, whose scandals and connection to Clinton quickly sours voters even more on Clinton. Rubio gives strong performances in the debates with surprisingly few gaffes, and wins.

That's the scenario I imagine of this happening.
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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2015, 01:43:50 PM »

If you flip Nevada, it's plausible. No way will Nevada go Republican before Virginia.
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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2015, 06:47:35 PM »

Once again: NV /=/ New Vermont. So yeah, it's quite plausible, even though I suspect that both NV and VA (and PA, for that matter) are decided by razor-thin margins in this scenario.

How plausible do you guys think this map is?


 
DEM: 269 EV
GOP: 269 EV

  That seems plausible, except I would give New Hampshire to the GOP. 
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2015, 07:51:54 PM »

Once again: NV /=/ New Vermont. So yeah, it's quite plausible, even though I suspect that both NV and VA (and PA, for that matter) are decided by razor-thin margins in this scenario.

How plausible do you guys think this map is?


 
DEM: 269 EV
GOP: 269 EV

  That seems plausible, except I would give New Hampshire to the GOP. 
It's TNvolunteer. In all other aspects, he's a great guy, but he seems to have this weird obsession with New Hampshire being a solid Democratic state for some reason.
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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2015, 08:26:09 PM »

Dems wont lose Iowa and NV, but win Va.
i think they could lose Iowa with right republican not Nevada I agree. 
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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2015, 09:20:56 PM »

Nevada should flip only after at least 1 of Virginia and Pennsylvania has flipped.
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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2015, 10:40:05 PM »

Once again: NV /=/ New Vermont. So yeah, it's quite plausible, even though I suspect that both NV and VA (and PA, for that matter) are decided by razor-thin margins in this scenario.

How plausible do you guys think this map is?



DEM: 269 EV
GOP: 269 EV

NV is closer to being New Vermont than NH. It's been more Democratic than NH in recent presidential elections, and it actually does show a Democratic trend. It may not be a Safe D state, but as I said, it won't go Republican before Virginia, nor will Maine's second district.
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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2015, 10:55:31 PM »


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Republicans lose both Pennsylvania and Virginia, but still manage to win the election.

With Rubio, Bush, Kasich, or Paul yes.
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2015, 11:36:08 PM »

Nevada is a no-show for GOP in 2016.

Remove Nevada from this map, and yes, that is a plausible map.
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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2015, 11:47:26 PM »

Sen. Marco Rubio(R-FL)/Gov. Brian Sandoval(R-NV) - 51.1%
Fmr. SoS Hillary Clinton(D-NY)/Mayor Kasim Reed(D-GA) - 46.9%
Other: 1.9%

Rather plausible, IMO.
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