Gary Johnson opposes intervention in Syria

[dudeabides]

Former Governor of New Mexico Gary Johnson, a likely 2016 Libertarian Presidential Hopeful, has this to say about the situation in Syria:

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https://reason.com/blog/2015/11/19/gary-johnson-isis-refugees-syria-terror

Thoughts?

[Oakvale]

Who cares what this loser thinks?

[Clark Kent]

That's unfortunate. Why do libertarians have to be sane on everything else but foreign policy?

Who cares what this loser thinks?

This is funny coming from a Trump supporter, considering that TRUMP wasn't even able to win the joke Reform Party's nomination in 2000.

[Clark Kent]

That's unfortunate. Why do libertarians have to be sane on everything else but foreign policy?

Who cares what this loser thinks?

This is funny coming from a Trump supporter, considering that TRUMP wasn't even able to win the joke Reform Party's nomination in 2000.

Neocons talking about sane foreign policy

I don't count closing our eyes, sticking our fingers in out ears, and pretending that the world's problems don't affect us as "sane foreign policy". Isolationism gave us World War II, and would've given us an all-communist Korea, Iraqi Kuwait, and an Afghanistan still run by the Taliban.

[OSR stands with Israel]

He wasted his future by switching to the Libertarian Party. He should have ran for a House/Senate seat in New Mexico.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

That's unfortunate. Why do libertarians have to be sane on everything else but foreign policy?

Who cares what this loser thinks?

This is funny coming from a Trump supporter, considering that TRUMP wasn't even able to win the joke Reform Party's nomination in 2000.

Neocons talking about sane foreign policy

I don't count closing our eyes, sticking our fingers in out ears, and pretending that the world's problems don't affect us as "sane foreign policy". Isolationism gave us World War II, and would've given us an all-communist Korea, Iraqi Kuwait, and an Afghanistan still run by the Taliban.

There's nothing wrong about the last three.

[Kingpoleon]

That's unfortunate. Why do libertarians have to be sane on everything else but foreign policy?

Who cares what this loser thinks?

This is funny coming from a Trump supporter, considering that TRUMP wasn't even able to win the joke Reform Party's nomination in 2000.

Neocons talking about sane foreign policy

I don't count closing our eyes, sticking our fingers in out ears, and pretending that the world's problems don't affect us as "sane foreign policy". Isolationism gave us World War II, and would've given us an all-communist Korea, Iraqi Kuwait, and an Afghanistan still run by the Taliban.

Except he's arguing for small amounts of intervention.


As far as foreign policy goes, I usually follow a pragmatic stance based upon comments from experts like Condoleeza Rice and Sam Nunn. I highly doubt most here are capable of being able to have enough foreign policy knowledge to way in on what wars we should or should not commit to. I also highly doubt anyone here can possibly claim to know more on this issue than Gary Johnson.

[Clark Kent]

That's unfortunate. Why do libertarians have to be sane on everything else but foreign policy?

Who cares what this loser thinks?

This is funny coming from a Trump supporter, considering that TRUMP wasn't even able to win the joke Reform Party's nomination in 2000.

Neocons talking about sane foreign policy

I don't count closing our eyes, sticking our fingers in out ears, and pretending that the world's problems don't affect us as "sane foreign policy". Isolationism gave us World War II, and would've given us an all-communist Korea, Iraqi Kuwait, and an Afghanistan still run by the Taliban.

There's nothing wrong about the last three.

We must have extremely different views on what the word "wrong" means.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

And Oakvale isn't actually a Trump supporter, nor did Trump actually run in 2000-not that the campaign that never was is pertinent to the discourse about the abject failures of internationalism.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

That's unfortunate. Why do libertarians have to be sane on everything else but foreign policy?

Who cares what this loser thinks?

This is funny coming from a Trump supporter, considering that TRUMP wasn't even able to win the joke Reform Party's nomination in 2000.

Neocons talking about sane foreign policy

I don't count closing our eyes, sticking our fingers in out ears, and pretending that the world's problems don't affect us as "sane foreign policy". Isolationism gave us World War II, and would've given us an all-communist Korea, Iraqi Kuwait, and an Afghanistan still run by the Taliban.

There's nothing wrong about the last three.

We must have extremely different views on what the word "wrong" means.

So are you going to sign up and fight ISIS? Lot of tough talk on the Syria issue from both the right and left. A whole new generation of chickenhawks is on the rise.

[Clark Kent]

That's unfortunate. Why do libertarians have to be sane on everything else but foreign policy?

Who cares what this loser thinks?

This is funny coming from a Trump supporter, considering that TRUMP wasn't even able to win the joke Reform Party's nomination in 2000.

Neocons talking about sane foreign policy

I don't count closing our eyes, sticking our fingers in out ears, and pretending that the world's problems don't affect us as "sane foreign policy". Isolationism gave us World War II, and would've given us an all-communist Korea, Iraqi Kuwait, and an Afghanistan still run by the Taliban.

There's nothing wrong about the last three.

We must have extremely different views on what the word "wrong" means.

So are you going to sign up and fight ISIS? Lot of tough talk on the Syria issue from both the right and left. A whole new generation of chickenhawks is on the rise.

Yeah, actually. I do plan on serving in the military.

[Lief 🗽]

Thank God libertarianism, as an ideology, is totally and completely dead, falling Rand Paul's disastrous campaign.

[Abraham Reagan]

Wow, a libertarian not supporting international intervention, how surprising!

[Bull Moose Base]

Not exactly the same of course but attacking Daesh in Syria and Iraq seems closer to attacking Al Qaeda in Afghanistan (which both Gary Johnson and Ron Paul supported) than it does to the overthrow of Saddam Hussein or Gaddhafi.

[Türkisblau]

Why did this topic need to be created? This is irrelevant and something that could easily be inferred.

[Sumner 1868]

Why did this topic need to be created? This is irrelevant and something that could easily be inferred.

[Reluctant Republican]

From what I've seen, even this is too hawkish for many Libertarians. He'll still get the nomination easily if he runs though.

[Oakvale]

Who cares what this loser thinks?

This is funny coming from a Trump supporter, considering that TRUMP wasn't even able to win the joke Reform Party's nomination in 2000.

You must be joking. Trump would easily have won the Reform Party's nomination, but wisely withdrew when it became clear that the party had been taken over by neo-nazis and freaks like Pat Buchanan and David Duke. Much like the Libertarian Party!

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Now cannabis is being legalised across the country, what is the point of libertarianism?

[dudeabides]

Who cares what this loser thinks?

Gary Johnson is not a loser. Unlike the current Republican front-runner, he was successful in business because he worked hard and he's smart. Unlike the current Republican front-runner, Gary Johnson loves his country, is faithful to his family, and values human freedom. So, he's not a "loser."

[mencken]

That's unfortunate. Why do libertarians have to be sane on everything else but foreign policy?

Who cares what this loser thinks?

This is funny coming from a Trump supporter, considering that TRUMP wasn't even able to win the joke Reform Party's nomination in 2000.

Neocons talking about sane foreign policy

I don't count closing our eyes, sticking our fingers in out ears, and pretending that the world's problems don't affect us as "sane foreign policy". Isolationism gave us World War II, and would've given us an all-communist Korea, Iraqi Kuwait, and an Afghanistan still run by the Taliban.

There's nothing wrong about the last three.

We must have extremely different views on what the word "wrong" means.

I will concede you Korea; having the southern half of the peninsula ruled by a dictator at least somewhat receptive to liberal reforms was incontrovertibly better for them than the Kim clan (whether this outcome was worth sixty thousand American lives is a different question). I am a bit puzzled as to why we should be concerned at all with the last two questions: which Arab sheikh should rule a swamp in the Persian Gulf (especially since the United States "providing an answer" to the question is directly to blame for partitioning an oil-rich nation of thirty million people between an Iranian puppet state and a Wahabbist caliphate) and which tribe should rule an area with few natural resources besides opium.

[Badger]

Who cares what this loser thinks?

[Badger]

Thank God libertarianism, as an ideology, is totally and completely dead, falling Rand Paul's disastrous campaign.

You are high. The liberty movement continues to grow.

This would've been a joke post even in 2011.

[Cruzcrew]

Thank God libertarianism, as an ideology, is totally and completely dead, falling Rand Paul's disastrous campaign.

You are high. The liberty movement continues to grow.

This would've been a joke post even in 2011.

Libertarianism is definitely rising among young republicans.

[Cruzcrew]

I love how people call Johnson an isolationist when he supported going after al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Non interventionism /=/ isolationism. Non interventionism supports diplomacy, free trade policies, and is willing to go to war as long as we are legitimately threatened. It opposes wasteful topplings of dictators who were significantly better than what we have now as well as billions in nation building