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Question: Will he run for a third term for NY Gov like his father did?
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« on: November 28, 2015, 09:36:30 AM »

All the signs here point toward him running again but the NYS Comptroller, AG, LG, and other elected are eager.
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2015, 03:39:55 PM »

My assumption had been that his decision would be largely based on if Clinton wins next year or not, as running for re-election would be a launching pad for his presidential candidacy for 2020 in the wake of a Clinton loss.  But I'll defer to superior local knowledge on this one.
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2015, 03:55:53 PM »
« Edited: November 28, 2015, 03:58:53 PM by Badger »

Baring indictment or similarly debilitating level or scandal , absolutely.

If he does run, likely the only major question is whether he'll get a top notch primary contender. He's still the favorite even if so, but that's probably the only way he loses.
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2015, 04:02:47 PM »

Yes he will most likely run barring a Preet Bharara probe/investigation, etc. If he does run for reelection in 2018 he may face a primary challenger. Eric Schneiderman, the AG of NY, or Tom DiNapoli, the State Comptroller, or even NYC mayor Bill de Blasio, or Zephyr Teachout may run. For the Republicans, maybe Rudy Giuliani or George Pataki or Peter King, or some other Republican may run.

http://nypost.com/2015/10/29/andrew-cuomos-already-reeling-from-preet-bhararas-probes/
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2015, 06:06:15 PM »

My assumption had been that his decision would be largely based on if Clinton wins next year or not, as running for re-election would be a launching pad for his presidential candidacy for 2020 in the wake of a Clinton loss.  But I'll defer to superior local knowledge on this one.

Cuomo has no chance in a national primary. He has pissed off almost every Democratic constituency and he will tank even worse than Joe Lieberman.
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2015, 06:44:50 PM »

Most everyone I know, from my liberal Dem friends to my moderate GOP relatives hate Cuomo. He's alienated basically everyone by sticking to his pseudo-centrist policies and shifting to the right on education and wavering on tax reform.

I'm not sure he would be able to win again. Another run by Cuomo would likely mean a deeper alienation of the liberals from the Democrats and a greater percentage by the Green Party's gubernatorial nominee. The ingredients are certainly there for a GOP win, but it's way too early to tell.
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2015, 08:21:25 PM »

Most everyone I know, from my liberal Dem friends to my moderate GOP relatives hate Cuomo. He's alienated basically everyone by sticking to his pseudo-centrist policies and shifting to the right on education and wavering on tax reform.

I'm not sure he would be able to win again. Another run by Cuomo would likely mean a deeper alienation of the liberals from the Democrats and a greater percentage by the Green Party's gubernatorial nominee. The ingredients are certainly there for a GOP win, but it's way too early to tell.

That's the thing, I actually think he could be beaten in a primary and a general. He soars against unknown Dems like Teachout only to get 62% or so and he only got 54% in the general against Astorino, a low-name ID county executive who was pretty far-right.
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2015, 09:45:35 PM »
« Edited: November 28, 2015, 09:53:18 PM by Kingpoleon »

If DeBlasio runs for Governor:

Democrats:
Gov. Andrew Cuomo/Lt. Gov. Kathy Hochul: 39.9%
Mayor Bill DeBlasio/Police Commissioner William Bratton: 36.1%
Labor Activist Jonathan Tasini/Businessman Leo Hindery, Jr.: 23.5%
CEO Eva Moskowitz/Fmr. Assemblyman Micah Kellner: 8.4%
Others: 2.0


Republicans:
CEO Tom Allon/Fmr. Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly: 48.0%
Lawyer Christopher Nixon Cox/Rensselaer County Executive Kathleen Jimino: 33.3%
Businessman John Catsimidis/Fmr. CIA Officer Gary Berntsen: 16.6%
Other: 2.0%

General Election:
CEO Tom Allon/Fmr. NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly: 42.4%
Gov. Andrew Cuomo/Lt. Gov. Kathy Hochul: 27.9%
Mayor Bill DeBlasio/Police Commissioner William Bratton: 22.4%
CEO Tom Allon/Fmr. NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly: 4.8%
Attorney Carl Pearson/Publisher Sam Sloan: 1.9%(Libertarian)
Others: 0.4%

DeBlasio is a big threat to Cuomo for being popular with the base.
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2015, 06:01:16 AM »

Yes, but I think he will primaried by either Schneiderman or de Blasio.
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2015, 01:17:38 PM »

If DeBlasio runs for Governor:

Democrats:
Gov. Andrew Cuomo/Lt. Gov. Kathy Hochul: 39.9%
Mayor Bill DeBlasio/Police Commissioner William Bratton: 36.1%
Labor Activist Jonathan Tasini/Businessman Leo Hindery, Jr.: 23.5%
CEO Eva Moskowitz/Fmr. Assemblyman Micah Kellner: 8.4%
Others: 2.0


Republicans:
CEO Tom Allon/Fmr. Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly: 48.0%
Lawyer Christopher Nixon Cox/Rensselaer County Executive Kathleen Jimino: 33.3%
Businessman John Catsimidis/Fmr. CIA Officer Gary Berntsen: 16.6%
Other: 2.0%

General Election:
CEO Tom Allon/Fmr. NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly: 42.4%
Gov. Andrew Cuomo/Lt. Gov. Kathy Hochul: 27.9%
Mayor Bill DeBlasio/Police Commissioner William Bratton: 22.4%
CEO Tom Allon/Fmr. NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly: 4.8%
Attorney Carl Pearson/Publisher Sam Sloan: 1.9%(Libertarian)
Others: 0.4%

DeBlasio is a big threat to Cuomo for being popular with the base.

Kellner couldn't win his local City Council primary in 2013 because of a sex scandal...Tasini would never get 23.5% what makes you lean toward these numbers?
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2015, 02:59:52 PM »

I thought that Bratton was a Republican, why would he run on a ticket with De Blasio? At any rate if Cuomo is the Democratic nominee again then you'll probably have the Green Party candidate getting at least 5% of the vote.
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2015, 03:40:18 PM »

I think so. But not sure about a primary challange or a defeat by a Republican.
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2015, 03:57:36 PM »

He'll run and win.
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2015, 07:00:34 PM »

If DeBlasio runs for Governor:

Democrats:
Gov. Andrew Cuomo/Lt. Gov. Kathy Hochul: 39.9%
Mayor Bill DeBlasio/Police Commissioner William Bratton: 36.1%
Labor Activist Jonathan Tasini/Businessman Leo Hindery, Jr.: 23.5%
CEO Eva Moskowitz/Fmr. Assemblyman Micah Kellner: 8.4%
Others: 2.0


Republicans:
CEO Tom Allon/Fmr. Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly: 48.0%
Lawyer Christopher Nixon Cox/Rensselaer County Executive Kathleen Jimino: 33.3%
Businessman John Catsimidis/Fmr. CIA Officer Gary Berntsen: 16.6%
Other: 2.0%

General Election:
CEO Tom Allon/Fmr. NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly: 42.4%
Gov. Andrew Cuomo/Lt. Gov. Kathy Hochul: 27.9%
Mayor Bill DeBlasio/Police Commissioner William Bratton: 22.4%
CEO Tom Allon/Fmr. NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly: 4.8%
Attorney Carl Pearson/Publisher Sam Sloan: 1.9%(Libertarian)
Others: 0.4%

DeBlasio is a big threat to Cuomo for being popular with the base.

Unless the law is changed within the next few years, the Lt. Governor runs separately from the Governor in the primaries.  So all of your potential primary matchups are incorrect.  

Plus, everyone is forgetting that Congressman Chris Gibson is retiring in 2016, and probably will run for a statewide office in 2018 - probably governor, if Cuomo's approval ratings are low.  If he runs for govenror, Gibson is likely to win the Republican primary and be the party's candidate.

Those of you who live in the "progresssive" bubble are also forgetting how hated de Blasio is, especially outside of New York City.  He'd have no chance to win a statewide election.  Upstate would reflexively vote against any New York City mayor for governor, let someone as despised Upstate as de Blasio.  And Schneiderman has hurt himself by trying to ban fantasy football in the state.

Cuomo is running for reelection unless he gets named to a Clinton cabinet.
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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2015, 12:40:40 AM »

Unless the law is changed within the next few years, the Lt. Governor runs separately from the Governor in the primaries.  So all of your potential primary matchups are incorrect.  

Plus, everyone is forgetting that Congressman Chris Gibson is retiring in 2016, and probably will run for a statewide office in 2018 - probably governor, if Cuomo's approval ratings are low.  If he runs for govenror, Gibson is likely to win the Republican primary and be the party's candidate.

Those of you who live in the "progresssive" bubble are also forgetting how hated de Blasio is, especially outside of New York City.  He'd have no chance to win a statewide election.  Upstate would reflexively vote against any New York City mayor for governor, let someone as despised Upstate as de Blasio.  And Schneiderman has hurt himself by trying to ban fantasy football in the state.

Cuomo is running for reelection unless he gets named to a Clinton cabinet.

I know NYC politicians are unpopular upstate, and that de Blasio has his issues (mainly due to that POS Pat Lynch, but I digress). But what has de Blasio done specifically to piss off upstate New Yorkers?  You make it sound like he went out of his way to anger them.

Very few actual voters care about fantasy football.

Gibson would be a formidable candidate though, better even than Astorino who did shockingly well last year.
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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2015, 12:16:31 AM »
« Edited: December 05, 2015, 10:02:32 AM by whitesox130 »

Preet Bhahara wants a piece of Cuomo. Unless he gets it, Cuomo's got another easy term if he wants it.
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2015, 08:21:20 AM »

My Congressman, Chris Gibson, could give Cuomo a serious run for his money. Oddly enough, he's courting those evil teachers' unions, who are very unhappy with Cuomo, as one way to cut into the Dem base in NY.
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2016, 07:10:53 PM »

Gibson forming an exploratory committee.
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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2016, 05:04:06 AM »

Realistically, he'd lose the primary.
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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2016, 05:28:39 AM »


Gibson? Or Cuomo? I wouldn't be so confident in BOTH cases..
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2016, 07:33:13 AM »


Gibson? Or Cuomo? I wouldn't be so confident in BOTH cases..

Cuomo. He's known to be corrupt, and there are rumors of several potential big names trying to primary him.
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2016, 03:53:44 PM »
« Edited: February 07, 2016, 03:55:30 PM by Simfan34 »

Gibson is by far the best candidate we could possibly muster, although most of Cuomo's critics are to his left and as such will probably not be of much help. Gibson would have to hammer hard on corruption, although Bharara's lifting of Damocles sword makes that more difficult than is desirable.
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2016, 04:24:41 PM »

Trump should run against him.
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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2016, 11:56:09 PM »

Gibson is by far the best candidate we could possibly muster, although most of Cuomo's critics are to his left and as such will probably not be of much help. Gibson would have to hammer hard on corruption, although Bharara's lifting of Damocles sword makes that more difficult than is desirable.

I like Gibson, but New York Republican party is much more conserative now then half century ago (when it routinely ran pro-choice moderates and even liberals like Javits, Halperin, Reid and Kupferman), so Gibson may be "too liberal" for it. Similar to what we see in NY-22 now, where (despite moderate tradition of district) both announced candidates are closer to far right, and even in NY-19, where Faso is somewhat more conserative then Gibson himself.
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2016, 05:47:06 PM »

Cuomo has moved to the left a bit on some issues fracking, min wage, gay rights etc. obviously to shore up his liberal base.
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