Who is more left-wing?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Seth of course.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Who cares and why is that an objectively good thing?

[Associate Justice PiT]

Who cares and why is that an objectively good thing?

     Because this is BRTD we're talking about.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

If I dare say so myself, I'd reckon I'm the most left-wing individual on this entire forum on social and economic matters. No one compares to me. I love and care more than anybody else.

[courts]

If I dare say so myself, I'd reckon I'm the most left-wing individual on this entire forum on social and economic matters. No one compares to me. I love and care more than anybody else.

you're a peach smiley

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Seth, the billionaire Sanderista?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

The far greater insight and trenchancy of Gully's thought more than makes up for any specific ~Issues~ MacFuckwad may be ~To The Left Of Him~ on.

[SWE]

This is low. What has Gully done to deserve comparison to garbage like Seth MacFarlane?

[traininthedistance]

This is low. What has Gully done to deserve comparison to garbage like Seth MacFarlane?

He once thought Hispanic was a race on the US Census.  That's just obviously unforgivable.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

It's not just that he claimed Hispanic was a separate race on the Census. If you read the post where it came from you'll see it's a bunch of presumptuous nonsense clearly written by someone who wasn't an American and has next to no understanding of American culture or social divisions. Even if you remove the bit about Hispanic being a separate race on the Census it still makes zero sense in the context of American society. I mean Gully effectively claimed that the Ecuadorian, Central American and Mexican communities in south central Minneapolis are not really any different than the Scandinavians and Germans all throughout Minnesota (who also don't have their own neighborhoods in Minneapolis either.)

And that's a city with a relatively small Hispanic population. If you look at somewhere like Phoenix or anywhere in Texas it becomes laughably absurd. Like on the level of pbrower or J. J.'s electoral "analysis".

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

It's not just that he claimed Hispanic was a separate race on the Census. If you read the post where it came from you'll see it's a bunch of presumptuous nonsense clearly written by someone who wasn't an American and has next to no understanding of American culture or social divisions. Even if you remove the bit about Hispanic being a separate race on the Census it still makes zero sense in the context of American society. I mean Gully effectively claimed that the Ecuadorian, Central American and Mexican communities in south central Minneapolis are not really any different than the Scandinavians and Germans all throughout Minnesota (who also don't have their own neighborhoods in Minneapolis either.)

And that's a city with a relatively small Hispanic population. If you look at somewhere like Phoenix or anywhere in Texas it becomes laughably absurd. Like on the level of pbrower or J. J.'s electoral "analysis".

How do you even remember this stuff for seven years, much less continue to care about? I know I for one said all sorts of stupid sh**t in 2008 that I wouldn't appreciate being used against me now.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I've had a rivalry with Gully since he started posting due to what he said about Ralph Nader and the Democratic Party then, so I remember most of his early posts well.

[Goldwater]

I have a strange feeling this rivalry is mostly one way.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

It's not just that he claimed Hispanic was a separate race on the Census. If you read the post where it came from you'll see it's a bunch of presumptuous nonsense clearly written by someone who wasn't an American and has next to no understanding of American culture or social divisions. Even if you remove the bit about Hispanic being a separate race on the Census it still makes zero sense in the context of American society. I mean Gully effectively claimed that the Ecuadorian, Central American and Mexican communities in south central Minneapolis are not really any different than the Scandinavians and Germans all throughout Minnesota (who also don't have their own neighborhoods in Minneapolis either.)

And that's a city with a relatively small Hispanic population. If you look at somewhere like Phoenix or anywhere in Texas it becomes laughably absurd. Like on the level of pbrower or J. J.'s electoral "analysis".

You know BRTD one of the reasons I joined this forum was to learn things, in particular to learn things about a country I'm not from and have spent no more than about 20 days in my life. Sometimes in my enthusiasm I say some dumb sh**t but *shrug*, it's not like I care about the Hispanic thing in 2015 anymore, only to say that it is clearly a false and arbitrary grouping (which was part of my point to begin with). Disagree with me? no care.

[bedstuy]

BRTD, this makes zero sense.  Zero.

You seem to hate "true leftists," yet you have really arbitrary anger about someone not being left-wing enough or something.  You champion being a "social justice warrior," even though that's mostly a derogatory internet slur against people with extreme leftist identity politics beliefs, which you don't even seem to share.

Now, I actually think most of our European posters have an incredible knowledge of the United States, given the fact that they don't live here.  You shouldn't lord it over someone when you have more knowledge of a country you've lived in your entire life.  It's not a contest.  How about being respectful and sharing your knowledge if you think they misunderstand something because of cultural differences or inexperience with your country. 

You both actually seem to have fairly similar politics.  Give it up man.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

BRTD, this makes zero sense.  Zero.

You seem to hate "true leftists," yet you have really arbitrary anger about someone not being left-wing enough or something.  You champion being a "social justice warrior," even though that's mostly a derogatory internet slur against people with extreme leftist identity politics beliefs, which you don't even seem to share.

Now, I actually think most of our European posters have an incredible knowledge of the United States, given the fact that they don't live here.  You shouldn't lord it over someone when you have more knowledge of a country you've lived in your entire life.  It's not a contest.  How about being respectful and sharing your knowledge if you think they misunderstand something because of cultural differences or inexperience with your country. 

You both actually seem to have fairly similar politics.  Give it up man.

Actually the anti-true leftist thing is where I started getting on Gully due to his pro-Nader and anti-Democratic Party hackery. Which is also why I don't see myself having similar politics. Gully was also very critical of Obamamania in 2008, which is one of my proudest ever votes as well.

[bedstuy]

BRTD, this makes zero sense.  Zero.

You seem to hate "true leftists," yet you have really arbitrary anger about someone not being left-wing enough or something.  You champion being a "social justice warrior," even though that's mostly a derogatory internet slur against people with extreme leftist identity politics beliefs, which you don't even seem to share.

Now, I actually think most of our European posters have an incredible knowledge of the United States, given the fact that they don't live here.  You shouldn't lord it over someone when you have more knowledge of a country you've lived in your entire life.  It's not a contest.  How about being respectful and sharing your knowledge if you think they misunderstand something because of cultural differences or inexperience with your country. 

You both actually seem to have fairly similar politics.  Give it up man.

Actually the anti-true leftist thing is where I started getting on Gully due to his pro-Nader and anti-Democratic Party hackery. Which is also why I don't see myself having similar politics. Gully was also very critical of Obamamania in 2008, which is one of my proudest ever votes as well.

Well, I voted for Obama too.  But, it certainly feels like some of his supporters were overzealous and naive, as was the case with every "movement," "insurgent" candidate.  So, it's not a completely invalid criticism.

And, you can't call Gully a true leftist.  Factually incorrect.  Let it go anyway.

[Gustaf]

It's funny how BRTD harps on about someone's stupid comment from nearly a decade ago when he makes incredibly ignorant and logically fallacious statements pretty much every day.