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Question: Submit to the Donald?
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Yes, I surrender. Trump will win the GOP nomination and quite possibly the presidency.
 
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No, I don't surrender. Trump cannot win!!
 
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« on: December 02, 2015, 04:33:51 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2015, 04:35:23 PM »

Refer to my signature.
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2015, 04:36:18 PM »

Never!!
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2015, 04:39:02 PM »

That Quinnipiac poll is pretty brutal for non-Trumpers - he has easily the most solid infrastructure of support. His lead has grown substantially since before. He's at 27%, not amazing, but definitely solid. Conservative voters are mad as hell, and they're not going to settle for some limp noodle like they have in years past.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2015, 04:39:49 PM »

That Quinnipiac poll is pretty brutal for non-Trumpers - he has easily the most solid infrastructure of support. His lead has grown substantially since before. He's at 27%, not amazing, but definitely solid. Conservative voters are mad as hell, and they're not going to settle for some limp noodle like they have in years past.

His support isn't coming from conservatives according to all polls I've seen.
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2015, 04:40:59 PM »

That Quinnipiac poll is pretty brutal for non-Trumpers - he has easily the most solid infrastructure of support. His lead has grown substantially since before. He's at 27%, not amazing, but definitely solid. Conservative voters are mad as hell, and they're not going to settle for some limp noodle like they have in years past.

His support isn't coming from conservatives according to all polls I've seen.

I keep mixing that up and that is actually a fair point. Let me re-phrase:

Old, blue collar white moderates are mad as hell, and they're not going to settle for some limp noodle like they have in years past.
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2015, 05:00:34 PM »

That Quinnipiac poll is pretty brutal for non-Trumpers - he has easily the most solid infrastructure of support. His lead has grown substantially since before. He's at 27%, not amazing, but definitely solid. Conservative voters are mad as hell, and they're not going to settle for some limp noodle like they have in years past.

His support isn't coming from conservatives according to all polls I've seen.

I keep mixing that up and that is actually a fair point. Let me re-phrase:

Old, blue collar white moderates are mad as hell, and they're not going to settle for some limp noodle like they have in years past.


There was an excellent Trump piece in The Week recently that touched on this.

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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2015, 07:58:07 PM »
« Edited: December 02, 2015, 08:51:53 PM by EliteLX »

That Quinnipiac poll is pretty brutal for non-Trumpers - he has easily the most solid infrastructure of support. His lead has grown substantially since before. He's at 27%, not amazing, but definitely solid. Conservative voters are mad as hell, and they're not going to settle for some limp noodle like they have in years past.

His support isn't coming from conservatives according to all polls I've seen.

I keep mixing that up and that is actually a fair point. Let me re-phrase:

Old, blue collar white moderates are mad as hell, and they're not going to settle for some limp noodle like they have in years past.

Agreed,

sadly enough they're going to resort to some stiff almond that has absolutely zero political policy ideas except a border infrastructure/reform project that even he can barely give all the answers for and calling his opponents ugly. What a sad, sad time.

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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2015, 08:18:55 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2015, 08:24:19 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2015, 09:05:25 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2015, 09:15:02 PM »

president trump. get used to saying it.
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2015, 09:16:18 PM »


The President America deserves.
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2015, 05:38:15 AM »

Rubio will be the nominee. Trump may win the nomination if Rubio implodes; but in that case he'll lose big against Hillary.
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2015, 08:56:57 AM »
« Edited: December 03, 2015, 09:04:22 AM by muon2 »

That Quinnipiac poll is pretty brutal for non-Trumpers - he has easily the most solid infrastructure of support. His lead has grown substantially since before. He's at 27%, not amazing, but definitely solid. Conservative voters are mad as hell, and they're not going to settle for some limp noodle like they have in years past.

His support isn't coming from conservatives according to all polls I've seen.

I keep mixing that up and that is actually a fair point. Let me re-phrase:

Old, blue collar white moderates are mad as hell, and they're not going to settle for some limp noodle like they have in years past.


There was an excellent Trump piece in The Week recently that touched on this.

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And not just moderate Pubs. My friends in Chicago say that there is real support for Trump in the white ethnic neighborhoods - the same areas that were Reagan Dems. However, there's not much sign yet that they plan to take Pub primary ballots.
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2015, 08:58:29 AM »

I'm still gonna wait until April before I make up my mind.
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2015, 09:52:15 AM »

I'm still gonna wait until April before I make up my mind.

Me too. I just cannot imagine Trump being the nominee.
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2015, 09:59:07 AM »

At this point in 2012, Newt Gingrich led Mitt Romney 37% - 22% nationally. Marco Rubio, who trails Trump by 10%, should continue to do what he's doing because it's working. Early momentum sometimes means nothing, but slow yet steady momentum can work and in recent history (see John McCain and Barack Obama 2008 primaries) it has worked.

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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2015, 12:02:55 PM »

At this point in 2012, Newt Gingrich led Mitt Romney 37% - 22% nationally. Marco Rubio, who trails Trump by 10%, should continue to do what he's doing because it's working. Early momentum sometimes means nothing, but slow yet steady momentum can work and in recent history (see John McCain and Barack Obama 2008 primaries) it has worked.

Yawn. Another allusion to 2012? You're so dull.
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2015, 12:09:59 PM »

Like I've said before Trump supporters are the people least likely to get off restart and take their rascal scooter to the polls on election day
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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2015, 12:13:35 PM »

Like I've said before Trump supporters are the people least likely to get off restart and take their rascal scooter to the polls on election day

Except his supporters are the young'ns, so there's tge whole in that logic.
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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2015, 12:16:52 PM »

Like I've said before Trump supporters are the people least likely to get off restart and take their rascal scooter to the polls on election day

Except his supporters are the young'ns, so there's tge whole in that logic.
That doesn't change that they are uneducated slobs who are the least politically informed or involved
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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2015, 12:18:17 PM »

Like I've said before Trump supporters are the people least likely to get off restart and take their rascal scooter to the polls on election day

Except his supporters are the young'ns, so there's tge whole in that logic.
That doesn't change that they are uneducated slobs who are the least politically informed or involved

What a typical establishment hack. Lobbying fallacious personal attacks against Trump supporters because they're out of lockstep with the heart of the Republican party.
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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2015, 12:19:46 PM »

Like I've said before Trump supporters are the people least likely to get off restart and take their rascal scooter to the polls on election day

Except his supporters are the young'ns, so there's tge whole in that logic.
That doesn't change that they are uneducated slobs who are the least politically informed or involved
No, I'm just repeating the fact that no one who supports Trump has a college degree

What a typical establishment hack. Lobbying fallacious personal attacks against Trump supporters because they're out of lockstep with the heart of the Republican party.
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2015, 01:39:00 PM »

Honestly, I'm still not sure that he's serious.

I'm not saying that I'm confident he isn't serious. Just that I really don't know. I don't grok Trump, or his campaign. (And while I'm neutral on Trump as an individual, I dislike his campaign greatly.)

How much of his own money has he spent so far?
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