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« on: November 20, 2015, 10:02:16 PM »

Before the 2017 British Columbia Election gets under way, people can use this thread to discuss, current BC Political events and BC Political Trends and History.

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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2015, 12:15:24 PM »

Latest poll says BC NDP leads BC Liberals 39% to 34% and Christy Clark's DISapproval rating continues to be stratospheric

http://www.insightswest.com/news/almost-half-of-british-columbians-dissatisfied-with-government-on-lng/?utm_source=Press%20Contacts%20-%20BC&utm_campaign=798447e140-BC_Press_Release_Govt_Report_Card5_11_23_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_03d4c17a5f-798447e140-39858025
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2015, 11:36:13 PM »

Yep DL. You are def from Ontario. Not only that, but ya def do not understand public opinion polling... esp. here in BC. That Insights West poll was not even reported in the major BC media for obvious reasons after the BC 2013 election polling fiasco.

Insights West is an "opt-in online panel" pollster here in BC - now basically operated by Mario Canseco who was previously with Angus Reid Strategies and their "opt-in online panel" polls in BC  during the 2013 BC election campaign. Canseco left ARS and is now with IW and running the same op that he did back at ARS in terms of questions, etc.

Both final opinion poll results for "opt-in online panel" pollsters Angus Reid Strategies as well as Ipsos BC  on Monday, May 13, 2013 (day before e-day) showed the NDP with a large 9% lead. Turns out that the BC Liberals won by 4.5% margin the next day. IOW, a complete 13% - 14% reversal of these opinion poll results. BTW, both ARS and Ipsos were the major media publicly released polls during BC election 2013.

And the ARS "opt-in panel poll" had even worse "disapproval" ratings for CC during the closing of the 2013 BC election compared to the IW poll ya just cited.

Again, obviously ya have no knowledge of opinion polling. Back during the 2014 ON provincial  election, the TorStar tested 3 different types of polling methodologies - CATI (live telephone interview), IVR (robo-calling), and "opt-in online panel. Their findings on "opt-in online panel" in ON:

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To reiterate, both Angus Reid Strategies as well as Ipsos (opt-in online panel pollsters) not only had similar numbers but also had a 9% lead for the BC NDP the day BEFORE the BC 2013 election. The actual spread was a 13% - 14% reversal in favour of the BC Liberals.

Utilizing the IW opt-in online panel poll that ya referenced with a 5% spread in favour of the BC NDP, quite obvious that actual current polling results with CATI polling would show ~a 8% spread in favour of the BC Liberals.

But obviously ya don't understand this stuff. I would suggest that ya take a few courses in Statistics and Probability as well understand the difference between CATI, IVR, as well as opt-in online polling in general... esp. here in BC.

BTW, Mustel has been a long-time BC provincial pollster over 25+ years- a CATI pollster - with very accurate results. Their last provincial poll was in January, 2013 ... over 4 months before the BC 2013 provincial election. And their "approval ratings" for CC then were COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from similar soundings by both opt-in panel ARS as well as Ipsos.

Again, Mustel is a very expensive and very accurate (historically) CATI pollster. They have bowed out of BC provincial polling as it has obviously become too expensive. Mustel is akin to Nanos federally in terms of accuracy.

So BC is now only left with polling junk - opt-in online panel as well as IVR, which the major BC media no longer reports upon based upon the 2013 election fiasco.

Finally, after readings your posts.. it's quite obvious that ya follow the NDP akin to a "church" and their leader akin to a "high priest". In that vein, if Jim Jones was the NDP leader I have no doubt that ya would follow him down to Jonestown, Guyana and drink the same "kool-aid".
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2015, 08:03:36 PM »

Canuck fight!
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2015, 07:34:36 PM »

Former Premier Bill Bennett died today at the age of 83
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bill-bennett-died-1.3351863
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