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« on: December 03, 2015, 08:24:58 PM »

With the 22nd amendment barring President Obama from running a 3rd term, would he be able to win a 3rd term if he was eligible or would he lose big time?  Post maps if you'd like.
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2015, 08:31:12 PM »

He'd win even more convincingly then he did in 2012.
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2015, 08:32:03 PM »

He'd win even more convincingly then he did in 2012.
What's the reason behind this?
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2015, 08:32:07 PM »

A resounding maybe.
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2015, 08:37:13 PM »

Maybe against Trump/Carson. He'd get his ass handed to him against a competent opponent.

The public doesn't trust him on security anymore. That's hard to get past. More importantly, he's been governing for the last three years like he doesn't care about the public's opinion because he hasn't had to. So if he had to run again suddenly, he'd be very ill-equipped.
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2015, 08:39:02 PM »

An Obama win without Ohio.

270 - Obama/Biden
268 - Trump/Carson

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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2015, 08:46:08 PM »


Pres. Barack Obama(D-IL) - 50.2%
Sen. Bernie Sanders(I-VT) - 45.7%


362: Gov. Chris Christie(R-NJ)/Sen. Marco Rubio(R-FL) - 53.6%
176: Pres. Barack Obama(D-IL)/Fmr. Gov. Martin O'Malley(D-MD) - 45.3%

Sanders gives a lackluster speech but officially endorses Obama. He does not campaign with Obama, nor do any of the other ten most leftist Senators nor most of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Christie had easily wrapped up the nomination with New Hampshire and Nevada dealing a one-two punch, with Rubio winning MS, AL, SC, GA, and Florida to place third. Rand Paul came in second, but only won Iowa, Missouri, Kentucky, and winning the delegates in Indiana. Christie let Paul give the keynote speech, which rallied libertarians to Christie. Rubio managed to help rally the rest of the Tea Party and Christie secured moderates without alienating conservatives. The Democratic Convention came off poorly, and Christie hit the ground running with a six point lead. He held it for a really, really long time and eviscerated Obama in a friendly but aggressive manner at the debates, while Rubio absolutely crushed O'Malley. However, polling narrowed from what was supposed to be a twelve point lead to closer to eight.
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2015, 08:50:38 PM »

Probably not, and Governor OMalley will probably win a nomination between the two. In which, he cant against Clinton.

He Probably lose a Kerry style margin in 2004, best for him to have Clinton succeed him
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2015, 08:52:14 PM »

What a bunch flimwads! Obama would easily be president for life if he so desired it.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2015, 08:57:48 PM »

He'd win even more convincingly then he did in 2012.

Economy is in better shape than 2012, demographic trends that favor  Dems continue,  GOP field is weak. Obama would win by somewhere between his 2008 and 2012 margins.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2015, 08:58:19 PM »

He'd win even more convincingly then he did in 2012.
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2015, 09:01:26 PM »

He'd win even more convincingly then he did in 2012.

Economy is in better shape than 2012, demographic trends that favor  Dems continue,  GOP field is weak. Obama would win by somewhere between his 2008 and 2012 margins.
When would he lose? 4th, 5th term? Obama fatigue will set in harder each term, he's not a king.
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2015, 09:04:42 PM »

Yes he would win. He's a much better campaigner than Hillary, is more likable and relatable, and believe it or not, still has less baggage. At the end of the day, he'd probably win by a similar margin to 2012. Republicans keep the House though.
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2015, 09:20:17 PM »

He has acted more more aloof than he has in his first term; I seriously doubt Obama could ever win another national election after how his second term has gone. Then again, if he were eligible for re-election, he would probably have changed his policy actions and persona accordingly.
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2015, 09:29:00 PM »

His approval rating is a few points better than it was 4 years ago and moving up. Unemployment is  3 points lower.

Also, even without a 22nd amendment, he would retire after 2 like every president before FDR did.
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2015, 09:31:34 PM »

Without the 22nd, Bill Clinton would be gearing up to run for his 7th term right now.
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2015, 09:34:11 PM »

Without the 22nd, Bill Clinton would be gearing up to run for his 7th term right now.

Surviving 2004 or 2008 (Literally and figuratively, respectively) would have been challenging.
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2015, 09:52:03 PM »

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/31/voters-63-percent-would-not-vote-president-obama-t/
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2015, 10:39:31 PM »

Without the 22nd, Bill Clinton would be gearing up to run for his 7th term right now.

This, but theoretically, of course Obama could win a third term.
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2015, 11:08:32 PM »

What a bunch flimwads! Obama would easily be president for life if he so desired it.
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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2015, 11:10:45 PM »

He'd be a much better candidate than Hillary, so like 65% chance.
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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2015, 11:33:06 PM »

I trust and respect Americans to think they would be intelligent enough to give Top Ten President Obama four more years in the job. Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2015, 11:45:14 PM »


Pres. Barack Obama(D-IL) - 50.2%
Sen. Bernie Sanders(I-VT) - 45.7%


362: Gov. Chris Christie(R-NJ)/Sen. Marco Rubio(R-FL) - 53.6%
176: Pres. Barack Obama(D-IL)/Fmr. Gov. Martin O'Malley(D-MD) - 45.3%

Sanders gives a lackluster speech but officially endorses Obama. He does not campaign with Obama, nor do any of the other ten most leftist Senators nor most of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Christie had easily wrapped up the nomination with New Hampshire and Nevada dealing a one-two punch, with Rubio winning MS, AL, SC, GA, and Florida to place third. Rand Paul came in second, but only won Iowa, Missouri, Kentucky, and winning the delegates in Indiana. Christie let Paul give the keynote speech, which rallied libertarians to Christie. Rubio managed to help rally the rest of the Tea Party and Christie secured moderates without alienating conservatives. The Democratic Convention came off poorly, and Christie hit the ground running with a six point lead. He held it for a really, really long time and eviscerated Obama in a friendly but aggressive manner at the debates, while Rubio absolutely crushed O'Malley. However, polling narrowed from what was supposed to be a twelve point lead to closer to eight.

Few problems

1) why would sanders do better than he's doing against Hilary? Obama has very little of hillary's issues with young voters. More to the point, I highly doubt he'd run against an incumbent.

2) 'friendly but aggressive' - wtf does that mean? Sounds vaguely sexual, which is never what you want associated with Chris Christie

3) O'Malley vs Rubio would be the most boring thing on the planet. The only things being 'crushed' would be TV execs dreams of good ratings.

4) the RNC can be a bit dumb, but even they aren't going to put some low energy loser like Rand Paul in a prominent position to capture the - like - ten voters that he would pick up in an election characterised by national security issues.

5) why would Barack ditch biden for some loser nobody likes?
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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2015, 11:54:13 PM »
« Edited: December 03, 2015, 11:56:41 PM by bagelman »


Yep. Against Cruz for example he would eventually come out on top, but a decent Republican who's sane can hold his/her own or win with the two-term tradition on their side.
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2015, 11:56:12 PM »

doubt it. don't see how he over comes the horrible situation in syria, iraq, libya, etc... unless "white" voters stayed home rather than vote for whatever loser the republicans nominated again. which you know, fair enough
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