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Negusa Nagast 🚀
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« on: December 07, 2015, 12:52:49 AM »

Because killing your child and buying a tool for protecting your home should be treated the same...

I love how every part of this post is wrong.

No children are killed in an abortion. A gun is a weapon, not a "tool." And owning a gun makes your household less safe.
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Negusa Nagast 🚀
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2015, 02:25:37 AM »

Because killing your child and buying a tool for protecting your home should be treated the same...

I love how every part of this post is wrong.

No children are killed in an abortion. A gun is a weapon, not a "tool." And owning a gun makes your household less safe.

What do you think an abortion is?   

The termination of a fetus. >99.9% of the time, this is done before a. the point of viability and b. the threshold significant neurological development and activity.

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Roll Eyes Are you intentionally dense?

Clearly a weapon is a subset of a tool. Let's call a spade a spade and not obfuscate a gun's true purpose: to more easily facilitate the injury or killing of another.
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Negusa Nagast 🚀
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2015, 05:34:36 PM »

No, it isn't.  You're just making up a statistic.

99% within 20 weeks. That's well within the constraints what Roe laid down for viability or the benchmarks of brain development.

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You and I, and 7 billion other human beings on this planet, are the manifested consciousness in our brains. We can think and reason. That is where the "being" in human being resides. That is what truly makes us a unique person. You have to choose some criterion, and there is a reason why brain death is defined as definitive death in our legal system. It's logical, from both a legal and a philosophical perspective, that the beginning ought be placed at the onset of this activity.

Sure, the exact moment of this is arbitrary, but there are definitive benchmarks when we can draw the line. The large-scale linking up of neurons in the fetus doesn't occur until between the 24th-27th weeks of pregnancy. You don't see a regular pattern of brain waves until the 30th week. Fetuses lack the necessary architecture to be a person until this point. It also happens that nearly (again >=99%) of abortions happen well before the 24 week mark. No murder is occurring here.


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We have conflicting definitions of what a child is. Potential to be a child does not equate to being a child in my view. As to the value, I leave that to be determined by each individual pregnant woman to make that determination herself. Nice attempt to smear my character though, but I suppose that's always a given with you.


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Except that statistically you are less safe if there's a fire arm in your home.

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Congrats, you found a dictionary to try and up the ante of your personal attack!
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