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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2015, 11:01:41 AM »

Hillary Clinton narrowly picks up North Carolina, but Donald Trump picks up Ohio, Iowa, Colorado due to high turnout among white working class voters and does slightly better in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan than Mitt Romney in 2012.
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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2015, 08:23:06 PM »

When faced with the choice between the unlikable headmistress and the crazy kid who has matches and a tank of gas, the voters will choose the headmistress.
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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2015, 04:43:54 AM »



What a Trump win would look like.  After the last debate(in which Hillary seems weak on homeland security) in Oct 2016 there is a terrioist attack in a major city.






Gop decide to broker the convention but Turmp still lets just enough for the nomination.  The party elites decide not to back him and pretty much runs anti Trump ads all through the election.  Trump becomes more aggressive.. basically 1964 again.
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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2015, 09:52:30 AM »
« Edited: December 12, 2015, 09:57:17 AM by Uhh_murican »

It should be a close race between Trump and Clinton. The two most important factors are that black turnout and support will drop for Clinton as compared to Obama, and that Trump will pick up a lot of white support by bringing in new white voters who were not motivated by bland establishment types like McCain and Romney. Trump will do well among older voters who remember a different America in a time before we had all these problems. He'll probably do a bit worse with Hispanics, but that doesn't really matter as compared to the drop of black turnout and the rise of white turnout, because they are not a big factor in most of the important swing states.

Because of the white and black shifts, Trump shouldn't have too much trouble winning a state like Ohio. Pennsylvania is not far behind, and Trump is well positioned to talk to voters in PA, as well as in states like Michigan, Iowa, and Wisconsin, especially in a general election. When the GOP used to have northerner candidates they used to do better in the north, and Trump can restore that to some degree. Trump has a chance at Colorado - most of the reason why it has gone Dem recently are whites, not Hispanics. And look for Trump to be competitive in unexpected places, like the 2nd Congressional district in Maine, or even statewide (as well as doing just fine in New Hampshire with all the Boston exurbians). Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is going to have a tough time replicating how Obama did in states like Virginia and North Carolina, because she is just not going to get the same amount of support from blacks. With Cruz as VP, Trump will do just fine with Cubans and Hispanics in Florida, and obviously will do great with Southern whites in North FL. And imagine if he picks someone like Paul LePage or Chris Christie as VP? He will then do great in the north and the midwest, much better than recent Republicans have done. So it is pretty easy to sketch out the path to victory for Trump.
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« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2015, 10:04:35 AM »

Hard to say as it will be dependent on how the political climate shapes up over the next year.  If the climate is similar to where its been the past month or two, with increased high profile terrorist activity and unease, Trump will successfully demagogue his way to the presidency.  If the terrorist threat is not as visceral a year from now and calmer minds prevail, Hillary will be in a better position.  It's going to be a lot closer than some imagine, however.  If Hillary and co. underestimate Trump we could have a very distressing situation on our hands. 

I think that you have it right. Partisan loyalties will still matter throughout 2016, and the crony capitalists will vote Republican because they can't imagine voting for any Democrat. Those partisan Establishment Republicans will vote for someone who promises tax cuts, weakening of labor unions, softening of environmental laws, and privatization of the public sector -- maybe wars for profit as well.

Donald Trump can succeed only in an environment in which millions are so disgruntled with politics that they would rather let a businessman run the government as if it were a business -- someone acting like a CEO.

Democrats do not have the equivalent of a "Daisy ad"


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« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2015, 01:52:40 PM »

It's looking increasingly likely that Clinton's challenger will be Trump.  Rubio and Cruz just aren't catching fire like they're supposed to be.  It's time for us as a sane country to realistically think about how to ensure Trump never gets his hands on actual power.

What is the safest strategy for Hillary Clinton that maximizes her odds of winning?

Start organizing voter protection groups hard, early, and nationwide. Trump's campaign will certainly follow their German inspiration and try to use violence and intimidation, in addition to outright fraud, to "win" the election.
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« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2015, 05:47:31 PM »

It's looking increasingly likely that Clinton's challenger will be Trump.  Rubio and Cruz just aren't catching fire like they're supposed to be.  It's time for us as a sane country to realistically think about how to ensure Trump never gets his hands on actual power.

What is the safest strategy for Hillary Clinton that maximizes her odds of winning?

Start organizing voter protection groups hard, early, and nationwide. Trump's campaign will certainly follow their German inspiration and try to use violence and intimidation, in addition to outright fraud, to "win" the election.

lol give me a break.
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