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« Reply #525 on: February 05, 2016, 01:59:52 PM »

Black turnout will drop without Obama, but not by 13 points. But in any case:

Exit polls reveal the 2008 primary was 60% female. This sample was 53% female. No cause for the decrease given Hillary's still on the ballot.

JUNK POLL



An Overtime Poll is JUNK!!?!?!?!

Wash your mouth out and get back in your corner.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to join in on the whole theory that this guy literally sits in his room making up polls and methodology tweaks, blogging, doing a reddit AMA, responding to 100s or 1000s of methodology emails, and reading the death threats some people send to him all just as a big joke to see reactions. No, I get the arguments/sequence of events, but the absolutely pathetic life someone would need to have to stay committed to that sort of joke just makes the idea simply preposterous.

If he releases a poll that is believable, I'm going to use it. I'll disregard outliers like this AL Poll.

Dude have you ever heard of catfishing? People have done far more elaborate hoaxes to just fool ONE person.

Also where is the money to conduct these "polls" coming from? They're just being posted on a blog for free, not sold to a campaign or media outlet.

Either the guy is rich or has a good-paying 'second job'.

Or, or, he's some Bernie Bro from Reddit making up numbers on a blog.
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« Reply #526 on: February 05, 2016, 02:03:39 PM »

Wulfric: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
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« Reply #527 on: February 05, 2016, 02:43:25 PM »

Of note this is their stated methodology:

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So where do those posted demographic sub samples in their "polls" come from? BY THEIR OWN CLAIM THEY DO NOT ASK FOR THIS INFORMATION.
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« Reply #528 on: February 05, 2016, 03:33:26 PM »

Of note this is their stated methodology:

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So where do those posted demographic sub samples in their "polls" come from? BY THEIR OWN CLAIM THEY DO NOT ASK FOR THIS INFORMATION.

BRTD, they have started asking for it in more recent polls. See this:

http://overtimepolitics.com/changes-to-overtime-politics-for-2016/
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« Reply #529 on: February 05, 2016, 04:31:40 PM »

Of note this is their stated methodology:

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So where do those posted demographic sub samples in their "polls" come from? BY THEIR OWN CLAIM THEY DO NOT ASK FOR THIS INFORMATION.

I'm pretty sure that was from before they started asking for demographics.
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« Reply #530 on: February 07, 2016, 12:13:08 AM »

Maine Democratic Poll:
Sanders - 56%
Clinton - 41%

http://overtimepolitics.com/pollingdata/OvertimePolitics.comFeb3-Feb5DemocraticCaucusPoll-Maine.pdf
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« Reply #531 on: February 07, 2016, 12:27:08 AM »


I'd love for this to be real, but it's Overtime.
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« Reply #532 on: February 07, 2016, 12:28:04 AM »


It's about what I'd expect out of Maine, though.
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« Reply #533 on: February 07, 2016, 01:43:31 AM »

Wasn't Overtime literally the most accurate poll in Iowa? Like only 1 point off.
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« Reply #534 on: February 07, 2016, 03:02:01 AM »


Yea Clinton isn't winning Maine.
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« Reply #535 on: February 07, 2016, 03:58:32 AM »

The Alabama poll made me literally laugh out loud. I wonder what the result would be if Overtime did a national poll. Sanders+20?

Something tells me this "polling firm" is going to mysteriously vanish into thin air the second Bernie Sanders suspends his campaign.
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« Reply #536 on: February 07, 2016, 05:01:56 AM »


Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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« Reply #537 on: February 07, 2016, 10:25:30 AM »

Lets see how their NH poll does then Wink
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« Reply #538 on: February 07, 2016, 02:45:14 PM »

Even if their New Hampshire poll does fine, I'm going to remain completely skeptical about this firm.  Tarot readings are right sometimes too, and they're much more complex than creating a fake poll topline.
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« Reply #539 on: February 07, 2016, 02:49:56 PM »

Even if their New Hampshire poll does fine, I'm going to remain completely skeptical about this firm.  Tarot readings are right sometimes too, and they're much more complex than creating a fake poll topline.

They have a ton of other polls to shape their results to in IA and NH, though we'll see how they really do in NV and later states with scant polling data.
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« Reply #540 on: February 07, 2016, 03:15:20 PM »

Even if their New Hampshire poll does fine, I'm going to remain completely skeptical about this firm.  Tarot readings are right sometimes too, and they're much more complex than creating a fake poll topline.

They have a ton of other polls to shape their results to in IA and NH, though we'll see how they really do in NV and later states with scant polling data.

I agree. Nevada is their first real test.
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« Reply #541 on: February 08, 2016, 09:09:17 PM »

New Poll: New Hampshire President by Overtime Politics on 2016-02-08

Summary:
Trump:
29%
Rubio:
18%
Kasich:
14%
Cruz:
11%
Bush:
8%
Other:
15%
Undecided:
5%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

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« Reply #542 on: February 08, 2016, 09:48:50 PM »

There's an Overtime Politics thread, you know.
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« Reply #543 on: February 08, 2016, 10:05:36 PM »

Damn. RIP TRUMP campaign, you had a good one. Sad
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« Reply #544 on: February 12, 2016, 05:04:30 AM »
« Edited: February 12, 2016, 05:09:26 AM by bigedlb »

Massachusetts

Trump 43
Rubio 12
Cruz 10
Kasich 9
Bush 8
Carson 6
Christie 3
Fiorina 2


Clinton 50
Sanders 44
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« Reply #545 on: February 12, 2016, 05:22:27 AM »

Looking at the results from the NH counties bordering MA, this looks about right.

Still don't know though if Overtime is a real pollster or not ...
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« Reply #546 on: February 16, 2016, 01:23:52 AM »

New Poll: Virginia President by Overtime Politics on 2016-02-14

Summary:
Clinton:
49%
Sanders:
46%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
5%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

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« Reply #547 on: February 16, 2016, 01:36:35 AM »

Are we really still entering Overtime polls? ugh.
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« Reply #548 on: February 16, 2016, 01:37:51 AM »

VA R's:

KING TRUMP 33
Rubio 19
Kasich 14
Cruz 12
Jebra 8
Carson 8

VA D's:

Clinton 49
Sanders 46

White: 54-40 Sanders
Black: 71-27 Clinton
Hispanic: 57-39 Clinton
Asian: 67-33 Clinton
Other: 50-50 Tie
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« Reply #549 on: February 16, 2016, 01:50:24 AM »

Fun with Overtime samples

2/12-14
White (65%): 54-40 Sanders (151-112)
Black (21%): 71-27 Clinton (63-24)
Hispanic (13%): 57-39 Clinton (31-21)
Asian (1%): 67-33 Clinton (4-2)
Other (.46%): 50-50 Tie (1-1)

1/4-7
White: 47-45 Clinton
Black: 73-23 Clinton
Hispanic: 61-34 Clinton
Asian: 73-24 Clinton
Other: 73-24 Clinton

2008 exit polls:
White (61%): 52-47 Obama
Black (30%): 90-10 Obama
Hispanic (5%): 54-46 Obama
Asian (2%)
Other (1%)

So, they randomly got multiple 73-24/73-23 results in January!
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