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  Are Mary, Marry, and Merry homonyms?
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All three sound the same
 
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Mary sounds different from the other two
 
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Marry sounds different from the other two
 
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Merry sounds different from the other two
 
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All three sound different
 
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« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2015, 01:10:43 AM »

You pronounce, Barry, Carry, Larry, Marry, Harry the same way?  So, you call someone named Harry, "Hairy?"

Yes.

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« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2015, 01:25:32 AM »

You pronounce, Barry, Carry, Larry, Marry, Harry the same way?  So, you call someone named Harry, "Hairy?"

Yes.

Wrong!

Exactly, I agree with Bedstudy.
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« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2015, 08:34:27 AM »

In any case, this thread is a perfect example why a fully simplified spelling reform for English is impossible. The  vowel differences between dialects prevent going to one symbol per vowel sound.

Tho that doesn't exkuze us from not simplifying konsonants. Fonic differenses between dialekts are small enuf that we koud uze just one karakter per konsonant sound. The only radical differense from exzizting konvenshuns that woud be useful is to do as some languages already do and uze 'c' for the 'ch' sound in curc if we cose to take advantage ov the fakt that we'd never use a plain 'c' otherwize if we simplified konsonants. Any kwestshuns?

I think it would bother me.  Here are three exact homonyms.  (At least the way I say them they are and I'm not looking for an argument):  their, there, and they're.

Now, when I read something like "Their going to do what?" or "There house caught on fire" on Facebook, it makes me cringe.  I think others cringe too.  Do you want to make every go around cringing all the time?
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« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2015, 10:52:14 AM »

You pronounce, Barry, Carry, Larry, Marry, Harry the same way?  So, you call someone named Harry, "Hairy?"

Yes.

Wrong!

Exactly, I agree with Bedstudy.

How can I be wrong about the way I pronounce things? Tongue
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« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2015, 12:05:09 PM »

You pronounce, Barry, Carry, Larry, Marry, Harry the same way?  So, you call someone named Harry, "Hairy?"

Yes.

Wrong!

Exactly, I agree with Bedstudy.

How can I be wrong about the way I pronounce things? Tongue

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« Reply #55 on: December 19, 2015, 01:14:23 PM »

They are all extremely distinguishable but Americans cannot articulate.
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« Reply #56 on: December 20, 2015, 07:13:39 PM »

This debate reminds me of a game show clip.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Rlrx-AQbQ

Growing up, I got made fun of for the way I pronounced "Carrie".  I picked up my mom's Philadelphia accent on this one, so I didn't pronounce it "Kerry" like a normal Midwesterner.  For me, "Mary" and "Merry" are nearly homonyms, but "Marry" is clearly distinct.
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« Reply #57 on: December 20, 2015, 11:10:14 PM »

In any case, this thread is a perfect example why a fully simplified spelling reform for English is impossible. The  vowel differences between dialects prevent going to one symbol per vowel sound.

Tho that doesn't exkuze us from not simplifying konsonants. Fonic differenses between dialekts are small enuf that we koud uze just one karakter per konsonant sound. The only radical differense from exzizting konvenshuns that woud be useful is to do as some languages already do and uze 'c' for the 'ch' sound in curc if we cose to take advantage ov the fakt that we'd never use a plain 'c' otherwize if we simplified konsonants. Any kwestshuns?

I think it would bother me.  Here are three exact homonyms.  (At least the way I say them they are and I'm not looking for an argument):  their, there, and they're.

Now, when I read something like "Their going to do what?" or "There house caught on fire" on Facebook, it makes me cringe.  I think others cringe too.  Do you want to make every go around cringing all the time?


Most homonyms that are not currently homographs are that way because of their vowels, not their consonants, so there would be no effect on most of them from simplified consonants. There are of course some exceptions from that such as "ad" and "add" but your trio of examples, they're among the homophones that wouldn't be affected.
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