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« on: December 16, 2015, 11:59:02 PM »

Including the ones that are already gone.

In my view:

Cruz: Yes, and will actively support him.
Rubio: Yes, but will avoid actively campaigning for him.
Carson: Yes, and will actively support him.
Jeb!: Toss-up, lean yes, but will grumble and stay silent/take passive-aggressive shots.
Christie: Yes, but will avoid campaigning for him
Kasich: No. Will endorse no one and make sanctimonious speeches about the decline of American civility.
Fiorina: Yes, but who cares?
Rand Paul: No, will endorse third party candidate and make sanctimonious speeches about warmongering and civility.
Huckabee: Yes, and will actively support him.
Walker: Yes, but will avoid actively supporting him.
Jindal: yes, but will avoid actively supporting him.
Perry: Yes, but will avoid actively supporting him.
Santorum: Yes, but will avoid actively supporting him.
Graham: No, and will make sanctimonious speeches about civility and not murdering the families of terror suspects.
Pataki: Yes, but who would notice if he campaigned or not?
Gilmore: Yes, but wouldn't leave his Twitter cave.
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2015, 12:38:51 AM »

Didn't Bush just say he wouldn't?
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2015, 12:39:37 AM »


He's considering that. No decision yet.
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2015, 02:01:36 AM »

All but Kasich.
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2015, 03:32:06 AM »

Including the ones that are already gone.

In my view:

Cruz: Yes, and will actively support him.
Rubio: Yes, but will avoid actively campaigning for him.
Carson: Yes, and will actively support him.
Jeb!: Toss-up, lean yes, but will grumble and stay silent/take passive-aggressive shots.
Christie: Yes, but will avoid campaigning for him
Kasich: No. Will endorse no one and make sanctimonious speeches about the decline of American civility.
Fiorina: Yes, but who cares?
Rand Paul: No, will endorse third party candidate and make sanctimonious speeches about warmongering and civility.
Huckabee: Yes, and will actively support him.
Walker: Yes, but will avoid actively supporting him.
Jindal: yes, but will avoid actively supporting him.
Perry: Yes, but will avoid actively supporting him.
Santorum: Yes, but will avoid actively supporting him.
Graham: No, and will make sanctimonious speeches about civility and not murdering the families of terror suspects.
Pataki: Yes, but who would notice if he campaigned or not?
Gilmore: Yes, but wouldn't leave his Twitter cave.
Change Pataki to "no", and I agree.
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2015, 03:37:42 AM »

Graham is gonna go around making speeches about not murdering people? Now, that'd be something!
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2015, 05:20:06 AM »

Honestly you'd have a couple of Zell Miller republicans rolled out at the DNC to say how bad Trump is, and the whole 'I didn't leave the republican party they left me' but really never underestimate the lack of character a politician can show.
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2015, 08:01:56 AM »

Including the ones that are already gone.

In my view:

Cruz: Yes, and will actively support him.
Rubio: Yes, but will avoid actively campaigning for him.
Carson: Yes, and will actively support him.
Jeb!: Toss-up, lean yes, but will grumble and stay silent/take passive-aggressive shots.
Christie: Yes, but will avoid campaigning for him
Kasich: No. Will endorse no one and make sanctimonious speeches about the decline of American civility.
Fiorina: Yes, but who cares?
Rand Paul: No, will endorse third party candidate and make sanctimonious speeches about warmongering and civility.
Huckabee: Yes, and will actively support him.
Walker: Yes, but will avoid actively supporting him.
Jindal: yes, but will avoid actively supporting him.
Perry: Yes, but will avoid actively supporting him.
Santorum: Yes, but will avoid actively supporting him.
Graham: No, and will make sanctimonious speeches about civility and not murdering the families of terror suspects.
Pataki: Yes, but who would notice if he campaigned or not?
Gilmore: Yes, but wouldn't leave his Twitter cave.

I agree except Pataki. I think he wouldn't endorse Trump at all.
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2015, 09:08:41 AM »

Besides the candidates, it would be interesting what other Republicans say. Susana Martinez, for instance. Or Charlie Baker. Or Collin Powell. Or McCain. Etc., etc.
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2015, 08:24:12 PM »

Christie, Kasich, Paul, Pataki, and probably Bush won't.
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2015, 08:29:56 PM »

I could see some Republicans switching to Democrat because of embarassment
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2015, 09:06:31 PM »

I could see some Republicans switching to Democrat because of embarassment
I couldn't
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2015, 09:42:57 PM »

I could see some Republicans switching to Democrat because of embarassment
I couldn't

Think about it this way. If you were a moderate Republican, would you rather quietly switch parties, then switch back after the election, or be associated with a xenophobic fool like Trump who will most likely lose horribly? Granted, I don't think any of them would switch to the Democratic party, but I could see some going independent or third-party.
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2015, 01:06:06 AM »

I could see some Republicans switching to Democrat because of embarassment
I couldn't

Think about it this way. If you were a moderate Republican, would you rather quietly switch parties, then switch back after the election, or be associated with a xenophobic fool like Trump who will most likely lose horribly? Granted, I don't think any of them would switch to the Democratic party, but I could see some going independent or third-party.

Right, but then they wouldn't be switching parties.

Throughout history, people switch parties for one of two reasons, and usually both: 1) their re-election chances depend on it or 2) they get offered something by the other party.
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2016, 08:05:17 PM »

Including the ones that are already gone.

In my view:

Cruz: Yes, and will actively support him.
Eventually true, after a lot of prodding from Robert Mercer.

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The second half is true, even if the first was off.

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Opposite of above.

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Pretty much stayed silent.
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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2016, 11:45:48 AM »


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Pataki never endorsed him in the general election.  At one point he said that he wouldn't support Trump unless he reversed himself on immigration, and later called on Trump to drop out of the race so that a better Republican candidate could take over as the nominee.  I don't know that he ever said who he did vote for though.

In any case, complete list of Trump's rivals for the nomination who never endorsed him or in any way indicated that they were going to vote for him in the general election:

Bush
Graham
Kasich
Pataki

The rest of them all gave at least nominal "I support the nominee" type statements.
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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2016, 11:48:03 AM »


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Pataki never endorsed him in the general election.  At one point he said that he wouldn't support Trump unless he reversed himself on immigration, and later called on Trump to drop out of the race so that a better Republican candidate could take over as the nominee.  I don't know that he ever said who he did vote for though.

In any case, complete list of Trump's rivals for the nomination who never endorsed him or in any way indicated that they were going to vote for him in the general election:

Bush
Graham
Kasich
Pataki

The rest of them all gave at least nominal "I support the nominee" type statements.


Mea culpa on Pataki; I just saw the "who would notice?" part and ran with it.
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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2016, 02:49:38 PM »

I could see some Republicans switching to Democrat because of embarassment
I couldn't

Think about it this way. If you were a moderate Republican, would you rather quietly switch parties, then switch back after the election, or be associated with a xenophobic fool like Trump who will most likely lose horribly? Granted, I don't think any of them would switch to the Democratic party, but I could see some going independent or third-party.

Right, but then they wouldn't be switching parties.

Throughout history, people switch parties for one of two reasons, and usually both: 1) their re-election chances depend on it or 2) they get offered something by the other party.

A third reason is that the party-switcher finds himself on the wrong end of one or two key issues where he and his party have become out of sync with over time.

A number of Southern Democrats just got tired of accommodating their voting records to be in line with the Democratic Caucus and switched parties.  In that category, we can place Reps. Andy Ireland, Bill Grant, Greg Laughlin, Nathan Deal, Greg Laughlin, Jimmy Hayes, and Sen. Richard Shelby.  All of those guys could have kept on winning as Democrats, but they did not want to moderate their records any more than they had.  Gov. Buddy Roemer (R-LA) is a non-congressional example of this.  I consider his switch to be the most ill-advised; he probably would have been re-elected in 1991 if he had remained a Democrat (although it would have been tough).

The point is that these folks did not have to switch parties in order to get re-elected.
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2016, 04:09:36 PM »

I did really well!

I mean, who could blame me for assuming that Jeb would have no backbone? I was proven wrong by Jeb!
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