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Miles
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« on: December 20, 2015, 02:20:37 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2015, 02:25:34 PM »
« Edited: December 20, 2015, 02:54:46 PM by Maxwell »

He barely won his primary last time, sadly enough he was probably going to lose this time against his Santorum-ite primary opponent. By the way, this is a good potential democrat pick-up now - Hanna was a perfect fit for the district, and now the Republicans will almost definitely nominate a hard right conservative.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2015, 02:37:39 PM »

Safe R --> Lean R
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2015, 02:45:51 PM »

These New York delegation are easy targets for Dems, Dems are hoping to do well.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2015, 03:04:08 PM »

D+1 hopefully.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2015, 05:26:37 PM »

Should be D+1, but D recruitment in update NY is horrendous.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2015, 05:28:30 PM »

If we can't find new talent, then maybe we should just plug in Mike Arcuri and try him again.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2015, 11:27:35 PM »

If we can't find new talent, then maybe we should just plug in Mike Arcuri and try him again.

AFAIK - he is a lobbist now, and isn't very interested in running again...
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2015, 02:51:44 AM »

With Hanna, Gibson and Fitzpatrick among Republicans (and, possibly, Graham among Democrats) retiring, and Dold, Curbello, Ashford and some other - seriously endangered. the next Democratic and Republican caucuses may be the most "ideologically pure" (and absolutely boring) for all 40+ years i follow American electoral process. Sigh........
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2015, 03:41:57 AM »

With Hanna, Gibson and Fitzpatrick among Republicans (and, possibly, Graham among Democrats) retiring, and Dold, Curbello, Ashford and some other - seriously endangered. the next Democratic and Republican caucuses may be the most "ideologically pure" (and absolutely boring) for all 40+ years i follow American electoral process. Sigh........

People say this every election cycle.
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2015, 07:19:48 AM »

With Hanna, Gibson and Fitzpatrick among Republicans (and, possibly, Graham among Democrats) retiring, and Dold, Curbello, Ashford and some other - seriously endangered. the next Democratic and Republican caucuses may be the most "ideologically pure" (and absolutely boring) for all 40+ years i follow American electoral process. Sigh........

People say this every election cycle.

And they are correct. The first congressional cycle i observed was 1972, and i still fondly remember it. Time, when one could still find Javits and Case among Republicans, and Eastland and Rarick among Democrats.. It was much less predictable, much less correlated with presidential voting, and much more exciting... Now it's usually one big yawn....((((
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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2015, 09:30:38 AM »

Just because something is "boring" doesn't mean it is a bad thing, but I do agree that the polarization of parties is a very bad thing. I don't really care for having a actual liberal GOP wing or a actual conservative Dem wing but I do think pragmatism needs to be promoted and encouraged.
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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2015, 11:21:19 AM »
« Edited: December 26, 2015, 12:05:21 PM by smoltchanov »

Just because something is "boring" doesn't mean it is a bad thing, but I do agree that the polarization of parties is a very bad thing. I don't really care for having a actual liberal GOP wing or a actual conservative Dem wing but I do think pragmatism needs to be promoted and encouraged.

I even care about actual liberal GOP wing and actual conservative Democratic wings, and BIG overlap between main parties (after all - there are only 2 of them in US, unlike many countries of Europe). For me present situation, when even the most conservative Democratic congressman is substantially more liberal then most liberal Republican one, is simply absurd. That's why i longe about 1970th in this matter))) When pragmatists had much bigger say too. Unlike present "i am a boss - you are a fool, you are a boss - i am a fool" situation (and who is a "boss" is determined by simply a number of "D"'s and "R"'s elected, because no INTRAparty dissent is expected or tolerated), and "two armies of faithful til soldiers" standing before each other without any desire to hear opponent's argumentation...

IMHO - both present major political parties in US are, internally, absolutely "nondemocratic" (with small "d"), tolerate no dissent within them, and, in most cases, are led by extremely "pure" ideological "zealots" (and it doesn't matter whether these zealots are "right-wing teabaggers" or "left-wing moonbats"), and, thus - not very different from what may be, observed, say, in Russia, or similar countries. Contrary to what was 40-50 years ago, when Alabama's Democratic party was very different from national one, and the same - for Massachusetts's Republican party. Now you need a magnifying galss to find even subtle differences (which are natural because of different history, people and traditions) between them and national parties.  Alabama's Democratic party essentially evolved in racial "Black party"... Yes, more developed system of "checks and balances" and somewhat different past and mentality so far prevented US from demagogic dictators, but, looking on Trump candidacy this year, i am not sure it will for long. After all Donald Trump is really close to hybrid of Vladimir Putin and Vladimir Zhirinovski of Russia))))

P.S. And, contrary to most European countries essentially there is nothing "third" for people who dislike BOTH that ideological Tweedledee and Tweedledum. Only them...
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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2015, 08:28:39 AM »

If we can't find new talent, then maybe we should just plug in Mike Arcuri and try him again.

Given that the district was lost because he was a lazy sh!tty incumbent... why?
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2015, 12:29:06 AM »

Yeah Arcuri was a dumb who made a sh!tton of stupid campaign moves and actually flip flopped to oppose Obamacare after initially voting for it, the type of flip flop that appeases no one. There has to be someone better.
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« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2015, 03:36:19 AM »

Yeah Arcuri was a dumb who made a sh!tton of stupid campaign moves and actually flip flopped to oppose Obamacare after initially voting for it, the type of flip flop that appeases no one. There has to be someone better.

Who? I really fear that Tenney will win "by default"....
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