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« on: December 22, 2015, 05:08:38 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2015, 08:16:36 AM »
Overdue. It should have been done in 2004 when the Pentagon came up with the plan.
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2015, 12:19:30 PM »
I supported it because I was 11 and Grandma told me it was good. I now think it just prolonged the war. It would have been better for an Iranian intervention in ~2009 when/if ISIL takes over. Let them handle it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2015, 03:42:50 PM »
Completely stupid, like 99% of interventions conducted by this country.
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2015, 03:58:46 PM »
Quote from: L.D. Smith, Bay Area Conservadem on December 22, 2015, 03:42:50 PM
Completely stupid, like 99% of interventions conducted by this country.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2015, 08:28:45 PM »
I thought it was an HS because I was (read: my parents were) against the war in Iraq. But yeah, we were all 15 once... Didn't know anything about American politics then. Now I think it was a noble attempt/FS, but wars without good strategies seldom end well. Neoconservatism's love of democracy was the problem.
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2015, 02:35:11 AM »
While the Iraq Invasion was a huge blunder  , once the US broke Iraq it had to fix it so the surge was a FS move
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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2015, 06:59:45 AM »
Quote from: Moderate Hero Republican on December 23, 2015, 02:35:11 AM
While the Iraq Invasion was a huge blunder  , once the US broke Iraq it had to fix it so the surge was a FS move

The fixing it didn't really turn out did it?
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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2015, 09:54:13 AM »
A lot of people on this forum are far younger than I expected.

As for me, I'm undecided, but lean FS in hindsight, because as I understand, it was doing well at tackling the insurgency, even if voters weren't willing to sustain it.
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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2015, 08:49:55 PM »
Quote from: ProgressiveCanadian on December 23, 2015, 06:59:45 AM
Quote from: Moderate Hero Republican on December 23, 2015, 02:35:11 AM
While the Iraq Invasion was a huge blunder  , once the US broke Iraq it had to fix it so the surge was a FS move

The fixing it didn't really turn out did it?

In terms of reducing the loss of American service members it certainly did. It paved the way for the withdrawal by 2011.
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2015, 09:00:42 PM »
Regardless of my opposition to the initial invasion, I supported the surge then, and I still support it in retrospect.  It changed the tide of the war. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2015, 09:28:51 PM »
Quote from: ProgressiveCanadian on December 23, 2015, 06:59:45 AM
Quote from: Moderate Hero Republican on December 23, 2015, 02:35:11 AM
While the Iraq Invasion was a huge blunder  , once the US broke Iraq it had to fix it so the surge was a FS move

The fixing it didn't really turn out did it?

Yeah because we left.

I think invading Iraq in the first place was a mistake, but leaving when we did was just as catastrophic of an error.
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2015, 09:55:06 PM »
We should have left in 2004. We babysat Iraq for too long.
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2015, 12:13:53 AM »
Quote from: Cory on December 23, 2015, 09:28:51 PM
Quote from: ProgressiveCanadian on December 23, 2015, 06:59:45 AM
Quote from: Moderate Hero Republican on December 23, 2015, 02:35:11 AM
While the Iraq Invasion was a huge blunder  , once the US broke Iraq it had to fix it so the surge was a FS move

The fixing it didn't really turn out did it?

Yeah because we left.

I think invading Iraq in the first place was a mistake, but leaving when we did was just as catastrophic of an error.

So how long should we have stayed? A few more years? A decade? A hundred years like Mccain suggested? No it did not matter how long we stayed there it was going to be choas as soon as we left.
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2015, 01:10:57 AM »
Quote from: Moderate Hero Republican on December 23, 2015, 02:35:11 AM
While the Iraq Invasion was a huge blunder  , once the US broke Iraq it had to fix it so the surge was a FS move
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« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2015, 02:49:53 AM »
Quote from: ProgressiveCanadian on December 24, 2015, 12:13:53 AM
Quote from: Cory on December 23, 2015, 09:28:51 PM
Quote from: ProgressiveCanadian on December 23, 2015, 06:59:45 AM
Quote from: Moderate Hero Republican on December 23, 2015, 02:35:11 AM
While the Iraq Invasion was a huge blunder  , once the US broke Iraq it had to fix it so the surge was a FS move

The fixing it didn't really turn out did it?

Yeah because we left.

I think invading Iraq in the first place was a mistake, but leaving when we did was just as catastrophic of an error.

So how long should we have stayed? A few more years? A decade? A hundred years like Mccain suggested? No it did not matter how long we stayed there it was going to be choas as soon as we left.

If America never funded the Libyan,and  Syrian rebels Iraq and Syria would still be stable
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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2015, 09:32:34 AM »
Quote from: CrabCake the Liberal Magician on December 24, 2015, 07:08:36 AM
Well it's moot isn't it? The Iraqi government wanted the US out ASAP, Obama didn't want to be faced with an increasingly moody and belligerent Malaki (not to mention the Iraqi populace). There was really nothing to be done at that point.

Yeah I suppose you're right.

It's such a pity the Shia had to be such dicks about having the majority. Biden's partition plan makes more and more sense in retrospect I say.
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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2015, 09:44:51 AM »
It's the best decision our country has ever made!
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« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2015, 12:01:27 PM »
I was 12 at the time, but FS in retrospect.
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2015, 08:09:25 PM »
Although I think the war was generally a mistake, the surge proved to be a success.  A good decision in hindsight.
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« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2015, 09:03:47 PM »
Quote from: Hillary pays minimum wage on December 24, 2015, 09:44:51 AM
It's the best decision our country has ever made!

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« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2015, 02:42:56 AM »

Stick to your own.
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« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2015, 04:48:54 AM »

Not with someone crazy like you...no
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« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2015, 04:54:58 AM »

Crazy because I don't agree with you?
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« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2015, 06:04:46 AM »

No or i would call everyone crazy...crazy with ur past posts and also this one.
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