PA Map (in my opinion)

[Keystone Phil]

Would you mind finding some quotes from me...I need some egg on my face every once in a while...

Well, I don't want to see egg on your face since you're my PA 8 pal on this forum but in this case, you don't know how happy I am that you were wrong.


You say that it is likely a Dem pickup. I couldn't believe how many agreed with you.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=5866.msg156129#msg156129

[bullmoose88]

Well...to be fair...I made the whole...D pickup statement before we knew who was going to run (and be the R nominee)...partly my fault for a "Dewey Defeats Truman" statement...but hardly a condemnation of Fitzpatrick's chances...(also based on an assumption that the Dems would pull a torrecelli and run someone that wasn't greenwood fodder)

if you notice down the page (I think less than a day later) I went to a toss up...


then in a month or so that followed, I think I gave Fitz pretty good odds.

Ah well...I voted for Mike...and will so again, unless things change drastically.

[Keystone Phil]

Ah well...I voted for Mike...and will so again, unless things change drastically.

And that's all that matters! 

Now we just need you to support Santorum and everything will be fine. 

[bullmoose88]

Ah well...I voted for Mike...and will so again, unless things change drastically.

And that's all that matters! 

Now we just need you to support Santorum and everything will be fine. 

I'm still totally undecided on the senate race.

[Keystone Phil]

Ah well...I voted for Mike...and will so again, unless things change drastically.

And that's all that matters! 

Now we just need you to support Santorum and everything will be fine. 

I'm still totally undecided on the senate race.

Two social conservatives. One is economically conservative, the other is not. Sounds like Santorum is right for you. 

[bullmoose88]

Ah well...I voted for Mike...and will so again, unless things change drastically.

And that's all that matters! 

Now we just need you to support Santorum and everything will be fine. 

I'm still totally undecided on the senate race.

Two social conservatives. One is economically conservative, the other is not. Sounds like Santorum is right for you. 

Then again, I hold the Caseys in high esteem, am not crazy about Santorum...and theres always the LP option or write in.

[Keystone Phil]

Then again, I hold the Caseys in high esteem, am not crazy about Santorum...and theres always the LP option or write in.

I like Casey, too. I'm always looking for people to vote for Santorum but I must admit that a Libertarian or other third party candidate will probably be closer to you. That actually helps Santorum in the SE so I don't mind all that much.

[bullmoose88]

Then again, I hold the Caseys in high esteem, am not crazy about Santorum...and theres always the LP option or write in.

I like Casey, too. I'm always looking for people to vote for Santorum but I must admit that a Libertarian or other third party candidate will probably be closer to you. That actually helps Santorum in the SE so I don't mind all that much.

Though the fact that he basically dumped (Casey) the record number of PAers who voted for him for treasurer (myself included) kinda ticks me off.

[TeePee4Prez]

Patrick Murphy...more democratic cannonfodder in PA 8...

The Bucks County Democratic Party (indeed all PA 8 democrats) need to take a break from inserting their heads up their collective posteriors and run a candidate who can win...not some candidate they'd like to win. At least Fawkes and the county GOP have realized this notion.

The last democrat in this seat was Peter Kostemeyer...a fiscally moderate, socially liberal (well moderately liberal...remember it was the 80s)

A moderate conservative will beat a populist in PA 8 any day of the week. Unless Fitzpatrick has been secretely found to be eating small children and animals.

Let them think they have a winner, throw tons of money in the race and end up losing elsewhere.    Murphy will be better than Schrader though (not like that's hard to do...)

The more I think about it, the more I think Pat Murphy doesn't have a chance.  NARAL or PPSEPA won't put up a dime either.  We probably need another Kostmayer type to run against Fitz.  Say, I've read about his politics and mine are quite simlar.  Think I could carpetbag?  I will be 26.  <joking>

[bullmoose88]

Patrick Murphy...more democratic cannonfodder in PA 8...

The Bucks County Democratic Party (indeed all PA 8 democrats) need to take a break from inserting their heads up their collective posteriors and run a candidate who can win...not some candidate they'd like to win. At least Fawkes and the county GOP have realized this notion.

The last democrat in this seat was Peter Kostemeyer...a fiscally moderate, socially liberal (well moderately liberal...remember it was the 80s)

A moderate conservative will beat a populist in PA 8 any day of the week. Unless Fitzpatrick has been secretely found to be eating small children and animals.

Let them think they have a winner, throw tons of money in the race and end up losing elsewhere.    Murphy will be better than Schrader though (not like that's hard to do...)

The more I think about it, the more I think Pat Murphy doesn't have a chance.  NARAL or PPSEPA won't put up a dime either.  We probably need another Kostmayer type to run against Fitz.  Say, I've read about his politics and mine are quite simlar.  Think I could carpetbag?  I will be 26.  <joking>

:-p

I will reiterate a previous statement...you better be born and raised in Bucks Co...to win this district

:-p

[TeePee4Prez]

Most of the people I know that live in Bucks were once from Philly, majority of those being the Northeast.  Also, there is an influx of New Yorkers in the county as well.  Not sure if that statement holds water, bullmoose.

[bullmoose88]

Most of the people I know that live in Bucks were once from Philly, majority of those being the Northeast.  Also, there is an influx of New Yorkers in the county as well.  Not sure if that statement holds water, bullmoose.

Pretty Fair Statement (property values in this county are going way up...even for total crap)--in terms of Bucks County growth in the last 2 or so decades. You gotta realize that these are people with enough money to get out...(which in one respect leans them towards the GOP) but are from urban areas which shoves em the other way.

Lots of swing voters...not a bad thing.

Still people who wanted out of Philly and NY and are wary of anything that advertises being from Philly, at first glance anyhow.

[12th Doctor]

Obviously never been to Clearfield County, have you?

Perhaps I should elaborate, while we do tend to lean stongly for the Republicans in national elections, the county council is made up of one liberal democrat, one moderate democrat and one conservative republican.  Bud George, who represents the state house district that is basically just Clearfield County (minus DuBois) is a Left-of-center Democrat.  The state rep who represents DuBois, Dan Surra, is a liberal Democrat.  The top judge for the county is also a liberal democrat, while the associate judge is a Republican.

Clearfield County also has two papers, the Clearfield Progress and the DuBois Courier, each have about equal circulation.  The Progress is generally right-leaning in its editorial section, though they endorsed Clinton in 1992.  The Courier is strongly anti-Bush and anti-Republican in its editorial section, the guy who owns it Denny Bonivito has expressed his hatred of Bush several times in public and in the paper.