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« on: December 23, 2015, 11:02:13 PM »

What are the most important Ambassadorships, in your opinion? Probably China, etc. would be on it.

What do you think are some of the "easiest" Ambassadorships? And finally, what would look best on the resume of someone running for President?
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2015, 12:17:15 AM »

Russia, UK, China, etc are the big ones, of course.

I think the underrated Ambassadorships are the African ones, especially in relations to touchy subjects like Zimbabwe.
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2015, 12:55:35 AM »

Russia, China, Canada, The Iraq, Sausi Arabia. All very important posts. Uk, netherlands, and Germany are the most lucrative.
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2015, 01:41:34 AM »

Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Iraq (whatever is left of it, anyways...), the UK are up there in importance.
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2015, 04:20:04 AM »

the UN
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2015, 03:35:29 PM »


Otherwise, I'd say it's currently China.

A long time ago, it was Great Britain.
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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2015, 01:55:11 PM »

Russia, China, Canada, The Iraq, Sausi Arabia. All very important posts. Uk, netherlands, and Germany are the most lucrative.

Lucrative? do you mean in terms of graft/later lobbying opportunities, or actual salaries ?
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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2015, 02:06:17 PM »

What do you think are some of the "easiest" Ambassadorships?

I personally would love an appointment to Ireland or Canada.
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2015, 02:09:32 PM »

Russia, China, Canada, The Iraq, Sausi Arabia. All very important posts. Uk, netherlands, and Germany are the most lucrative.

Lucrative? do you mean in terms of graft/later lobbying opportunities, or actual salaries ?

I was just thinking more along the lines of most desired.  But really those are just what I would most desire.
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2015, 03:12:28 PM »

Relevant map:





Typically, developed countries we already have safe relationships with are given ambassadors who helped the incumbent president in their election campaigns, as a cushy reward.  Other countries are sent people from the State Dept who will actually know what they are doing.
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2015, 03:33:49 PM »

China/Japan are usually former politicians, as those countries want figureheads with a influent political past, as it shows important people are interested in them, as is the foreign administration.

Anyways, with bundlers/politicians, I suppose other employees of the embassy do the real work.
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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2015, 03:49:39 PM »
« Edited: December 26, 2015, 04:03:32 PM by ingemann »

Relevant map:





Typically, developed countries we already have safe relationships with are given ambassadors who helped the incumbent president in their election campaigns, as a cushy reward.  Other countries are sent people from the State Dept who will actually know what they are doing.

WTF have we done to put in the same boat as China, Japan, South Africa and Saudi Arabia (and of course Tanzania and Australia)?
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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2015, 03:52:51 PM »

Remember this:

http://www.npr.org/2014/06/17/323032817/the-would-be-ambassador-to-norway-whos-never-been-there-himself

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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2015, 04:33:08 PM »

China/Japan are usually former politicians, as those countries want figureheads with a influent political past, as it shows important people are interested in them, as is the foreign administration.

Anyways, with bundlers/politicians, I suppose other employees of the embassy do the real work.

Ah, so that explains why Mansfield and Baker were both sent to Japan.
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2015, 04:40:35 PM »

"I will work with the President of Norway"
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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2015, 05:12:48 PM »


New crib seat for appointees:

Head of state is King. Has a prime minister.
Capital is Oslo.
Cold.
NATO member.
Not EU member.
Richer than us.
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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2015, 05:42:43 PM »

He withdrew last December, no replacement nominated yet.
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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2015, 07:34:32 PM »

The UK is considered the most prestigious but also is a highly expensive position. Ambassadors are expected to fork over much of the funding for parties and events, hence why wealthy donors are often appointed to the UK.
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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2015, 12:17:03 AM »

He withdrew last December, no replacement nominated yet.

thats ridiculous. i understand putting in some donors to reward them but come on. surely franken or klobuchar know of someone in MN who'd be qualified.
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« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2015, 03:51:33 PM »

Germany shows high political skill, as does India. As for someone running for President:

Caroline Kennedy:
Ambassador to Japan: 2013-2017
Ambassador to the United Kingdom: 2017-2019
Ambassador to China: 2019-2023
Governor of Massachusetts: 2023-2025

It's a pretty good resume if Clinton is President 2017-2025, and Kennedy runs in 2024. I created it in Alternate Careers.
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« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2015, 06:31:34 PM »

Isn't Caroline Kennedy a proven idiot?
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« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2015, 03:17:24 AM »


She isn't horrible when given talking points, but you can tell she is far from the sharpest crayon in the box.
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