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« on: December 31, 2015, 12:33:46 PM »
« edited: December 31, 2015, 12:48:45 PM by Frodo »

Kentucky's New GOP Governor Kicks Off Obamacare Shake-Up:
But Gov. Matt Bevin gave few details on how he plans to reshape the state's expanded Medicaid program.

Jeffrey Young
Health Care Reporter, The Huffington Post
12/30/2015 12:35 pm ET | Updated 22 hours ago

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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2015, 02:25:04 PM »

Terrible.

Kentucky has/had the best insurance exchange.
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2015, 02:36:08 PM »

He wants to scrap the program that most Kentuckians like and want to keep?
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2015, 02:58:59 PM »

He wants to scrap the program that most Kentuckians like and want to keep?

That's what they get for electing him.
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2015, 03:36:04 PM »

But even after all of the changes, KY will still be part of the expanded Medicaid program, just using a different form via waivers (like IN, MT, AR, IA, NH and MI).   The number of states not expanding Medicaid under ACA is down to 20, once Obama is out of office (and once Hillary is probably elected), I think they will slowly but surely take the money.
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2015, 04:44:46 PM »

Won't this require the Legislature?
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2015, 04:58:27 PM »

Won't this require the Legislature?

I believe the state house is almost purged of its Democratic majority due to a few appointments by Bevin and a party switch here or there. I don't have the exact numbers, but assuming the vacancies are filled by Republicans, then they only need to get rid of 2 more Democratic Reps to obtain a slim majority. After that, the evisceration of Kynect will begin in earnest.
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2015, 05:09:28 PM »

Not good. 
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2015, 05:35:45 PM »

They're reaping what they sowed.
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2015, 05:40:35 PM »

How disgusting...this is one of his first priorities as governor?? Happy new year Kentucky.
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2015, 07:18:21 PM »

This is why people who say there's no difference between Republicans and Denocrats are ignorant/deluded.
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2015, 07:51:30 PM »

The people who rely upon Kynect largely are the ones who are not voting in the first place. This subset of people nationally is the only reason the GOP remains a viable party outside of about a dozen states. You can blame them for electing Bevin by proxy due to them not voting, but for the vast majority, you can't say "well this is what you get for voting for Bevin", because they didn't vote at all.
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2015, 09:30:58 PM »

You can blame them for electing Bevin by proxy due to them not voting, but for the vast majority, you can't say "well this is what you get for voting for Bevin", because they didn't vote at all.

That's a fair point. I think WP even did a piece on this not that long ago. But I must argue that surely some of them voted, and even more so, people not dependent on that program will definitely know people who are and when Bevin brings the rain, I wouldn't doubt that sympathy for those people transforms into disapproval of Bevin.

I will also take this time to voice my disgust with Matt Bevin. As far as I know, he promised to release his tax forms then flat out refused after getting elected (?), and then he goes and reverses the restoration of voting rights for felons that the previous Governor enacted, despite saying he supports the idea. Such a generic cop out - Say one thing, do another. The state gives him the power to do it, and he defers to a legislature that he knows will not act on it. No surprise a Republican took away voting rights from people. It's only been a staple of their strategy for decades now. This guy is a hack.

Just seeing a Governor's face/picture has never annoyed me as much as Bevin has.
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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2016, 01:02:51 AM »

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Stupid ass people.
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2016, 02:20:10 AM »

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Stupid ass people.

Sorry, but everyone has different top issues, and there is no "truly intelligent" way to do it. I could just as easily refer to you as stupid for not caring about "innocent human lives" or the "moral fabric of society", and it would be just as pathetic and superficial of an argument as you have just given above.
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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2016, 02:46:31 AM »

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Stupid ass people.

Sorry, but everyone has different top issues, and there is no "truly intelligent" way to do it. I could just as easily refer to you as stupid for not caring about "innocent human lives" or the "moral fabric of society", and it would be just as pathetic and superficial of an argument as you have just given above.

Yes, but, it's a lie. No matter how much he wants, Matt Bevin can't do anything about same-sex marriage.
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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2016, 03:00:43 AM »

Bevin has already made it legal statewide to not list the county clerk's name on a marriage license, and it's possible that he would try to make it legal for any county clerk office to pull a Kim Davis, by taking away the requirement for such offices to issue licenses, potentially forcing same-sex couples to travel across the state - or even out-of-state - to get licenses. However, getting that through the house will be difficult, so he could do instead what North Carolina and Utah have done - allow someone to refuse to issue a marriage license, but require them to designate some other qualified person in the county to issue such licenses instead.

But there is of course no way for him to outright prohibit Same-Sex marriage.
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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2016, 05:01:00 AM »

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Stupid ass people.

Not really, abortion and morality are huge issues to people.
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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2016, 09:20:37 AM »

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Not really, abortion and morality are huge issues to people.

Indeed, especially abortion. If you actually take pro-lifers concerns seriously, it's a no surprise they vote the way they do. How much economic benefit does it take to vote for a pro-murder politician? When put in those terms, its a no brainer.
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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2016, 08:01:53 PM »
« Edited: January 01, 2016, 08:04:33 PM by Wulfric »

Bevin has already made it legal statewide to not list the county clerk's name on a marriage license, and it's possible that he would try to make it legal for any county clerk office to pull a Kim Davis, by taking away the requirement for such offices to issue licenses, potentially forcing same-sex couples to travel across the state - or even out-of-state - to get licenses. However, getting that through the house will be difficult, so he could do instead what North Carolina and Utah have done - allow someone to refuse to issue a marriage license, but require them to designate some other qualified person in the county to issue such licenses instead.

But there is of course no way for him to outright prohibit Same-Sex marriage.

I don't understand why this wasn't the solution at the very beginning.  If someone objects to their name being on the document for religious reasons, just have a law that gives someone else the authority to step in.  If all qualified officials in the county object, then bring in an official from another county who does not object and reimburse their travel.  Don't compel the couple to travel to a different jurisdiction.  IDK why this would be so hard or controversial. 



Well, at least under what has been passed in NC/UT, the clerk/probate judge must name/direct the couple to the alternate issuer, so I guess the Kim Davis's of the state could view that as "assisting in committing a sin."
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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2016, 11:26:34 PM »

I feel bad for the Kentuckians that voted for Conway and stand to lose here.

Those that stand to lose but voted for Bevin, I wonder when will wake up and realize what is going on.
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« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2016, 11:47:39 PM »

Im sure Bevin has great medical insurance but like most republicans pick on the ones who can't afford it.
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2016, 01:25:30 PM »

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Stupid ass people.

Not really, abortion and morality are huge issues to people.

Indeed, especially abortion. If you actually take pro-lifers concerns seriously, it's a no surprise they vote the way they do. How much economic benefit does it take to vote for a pro-murder politician? When put in those terms, its a no brainer.

Is there really that much of a difference between killing somebody when they're a fetus in a uterus and killing somebody when they're a six year old Afghan kid who gets hit by a drone?

What about if the baby you'll scream bloody murder and throw a tantrum over to ensure it exits its mother's birth canal alive ends up dying a few months later because it couldn't see a doctor because its mother had no health insurance?

I fail to understand why you're not bothered by these other deaths of young innocents as much as you are by those of fetuses.

That's quite the strawman you've constructed. After you are done defeating it, perhaps you can take the time to address my point.
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2016, 01:37:55 PM »

Can John Bel Edwards just run for Governor of every state? He's the only man worth believing in during these dark days.
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2016, 08:32:36 PM »

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Stupid ass people.

Not really, abortion and morality are huge issues to people.

Indeed, especially abortion. If you actually take pro-lifers concerns seriously, it's a no surprise they vote the way they do. How much economic benefit does it take to vote for a pro-murder politician? When put in those terms, its a no brainer.

Is there really that much of a difference between killing somebody when they're a fetus in a uterus and killing somebody when they're a six year old Afghan kid who gets hit by a drone?

What about if the baby you'll scream bloody murder and throw a tantrum over to ensure it exits its mother's birth canal alive ends up dying a few months later because it couldn't see a doctor because its mother had no health insurance?

I fail to understand why you're not bothered by these other deaths of young innocents as much as you are by those of fetuses.

That's quite the strawman you've constructed. After you are done defeating it, perhaps you can take the time to address my point.

My point is that if you think abortion is the taking of an innocent life, why are you not bothered by other takings of innocent life?

I like universal healthcare and oppose drone attacks. You are falling into that annoying habit of confusing every blue avatar with Rush Limbaugh again...

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