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« on: January 05, 2016, 10:42:53 PM »

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/gary-johnson-enters-2016-presidential-race/
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2016, 10:48:43 PM »

Godawful website. I tried three times to read the damn article and the popups wouldn't stop.
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2016, 10:54:33 PM »

I would assume that there would be a news article from a more valid source if this were the case.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2016, 11:13:39 PM »

He's going to be on Cavuto tomorrow, so that's when he'll probably announce.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2016, 11:23:22 PM »

I would assume that there would be a news article from a more valid source if this were the case.

Why would valid sources bother covering an irrelevant lolbertarian?
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2016, 11:24:58 PM »

I could see him doing really well in NM with Hillary vs. Trump
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2016, 11:31:35 PM »

I would assume that there would be a news article from a more valid source if this were the case.

Why would valid sources bother covering an irrelevant lolbertarian?

What praytell is wrong with freedom
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2016, 11:32:03 PM »

I could see him doing really well in NM with Hillary vs. Trump

Will it help Hillary or Trump?
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2016, 12:34:16 AM »

I disagree with the assertion in the article that 1% is a remarkable showing for a third party candidate. Many expected Johnson to do better in '12, and many third party candidates did better than 1% throughout history: Nader, Perot (twice), John Anderson, Wallace, Thurmond, etc. Even among libertarians, the guy they ran in 1980 got a higher % than Johnson. And if we look outside presidential elections, there are plenty of third parties every year who get up to 3, 4, even 6 or 7 percent sometimes in senate, gubernatorial, and us house elections. In fact, I think Johnson's pathetic GE showing could be used against him effectively in the run up to the nomination.
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2016, 12:40:58 AM »
« Edited: January 06, 2016, 12:47:29 AM by Reluctant Republican »

I disagree with the assertion in the article that 1% is a remarkable showing for a third party candidate. Many expected Johnson to do better in '12, and many third party candidates did better than 1% throughout history: Nader, Perot (twice), John Anderson, Wallace, Thurmond, etc. Even among libertarians, the guy they ran in 1980 got a higher % than Johnson. And if we look outside presidential elections, there are plenty of third parties every year who get up to 3, 4, even 6 or 7 percent sometimes in senate, gubernatorial, and us house elections. In fact, I think Johnson's pathetic GE showing could be used against him effectively in the run up to the nomination.

The problem with that is that they don't really have anyone who could do better. Maybe Ventura if he ran. But Johnson did do 2 times better than the party did in 2008, and 3 times better than the LP did in 2004, so I think an argument can be made that the 2012 performance is "good enough" for the LP to claim they've had a sort of victory.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2016, 12:41:06 AM »

Irrelevant - D.W. Perry has got this.
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2016, 12:46:15 AM »

I wonder if he'd poll better than Rand if he were running as a Republican.
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2016, 11:26:11 AM »

This isn't an official announcement, this is Austin Petersen's website reposting this bit of news from 2 days ago: http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/01/gary-johnson-resigns-his-position-as-ceo-of-cannabis-sativa-inc/

However, tune into Neil Cavuto today... http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/01/gary-johnson-some-news-about-the-presidential-election-on-fox-business-w-neil-cavuto-tomorrow-at-100-et/
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2016, 12:51:36 PM »

http://www.garyjohnson2016.com/
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2016, 01:21:01 PM »

He will have my vote again. Johnson/Gray was probably the best ticket imaginable for Libertarians. I would not doubt that it is the same ticket again in 2016.
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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2016, 01:36:31 PM »

He will have my vote again. Johnson/Gray was probably the best ticket imaginable for Libertarians. I would not doubt that it is the same ticket again in 2016.

Johnson/Ventura would be better, but I'm not sure if Ventura can actually be convinced to take the slot.
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2016, 01:49:56 PM »

I disagree with the assertion in the article that 1% is a remarkable showing for a third party candidate. Many expected Johnson to do better in '12, and many third party candidates did better than 1% throughout history: Nader, Perot (twice), John Anderson, Wallace, Thurmond, etc. Even among libertarians, the guy they ran in 1980 got a higher % than Johnson. And if we look outside presidential elections, there are plenty of third parties every year who get up to 3, 4, even 6 or 7 percent sometimes in senate, gubernatorial, and us house elections. In fact, I think Johnson's pathetic GE showing could be used against him effectively in the run up to the nomination.

He did get the most votes for a Libertarian in history, however. Over 1.25 million, which is more than Clark's 1980 result.
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2016, 02:00:43 PM »

Hillary of course. Third party candidates almost always hurt the Republicans.

Yes. I believe Democrats are much more likely to tow the party line this time around then are their Republican counterparts.

That said, if Donald Trump can manage to get disenfranchised voters to the polls, and somehow get some in the establishment and evangelical blocks of the party to support him, he could very well make a race of this. Or, in similar fashion, if Cruz or Rubio or Christie could somehow get disenfranchised members excited about their campaigns the way those folks are currently excited about Trump's campaign (which I think is a much tougher thing to do, all things considered), they could make a race of it as well.  I think this is the scenario that worries Democrats the most...
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2016, 02:19:45 PM »

Johnson could obviously make a difference as a spoiler if we have a close election,  in 3 of the last 14 elections the winner has had less than a 1% winning margin (at least in the popular vote).
Its hard for me to imagine Hillary will do as well as Obama in 2016.  With Obama's approval about -10, Hillary's likability about -15, the direction of the country on the wrong track by 41%, and the GOP currently sitting on a .5% advantage in the generic Congressional ballot, the GOP has a good shot at making 2016 a much closer election than in 2012.
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2016, 02:22:49 PM »

He has my vote if Trumps wins the GOP nomination.
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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2016, 02:46:52 PM »

Someone needs to make a real website for him. The font and the header in general are cringe-inducing - looks like a website for a city council candidate. In this day and age, there's no excuse for even the thirdiest of third-party candidates at any level to have less than stellar websites; it only costs a few hundred dollars (at most).
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2016, 02:50:00 PM »

Gary Johnson, one of the worst NM governors in history, trying to get .99% of the vote again? Seriously?

oh jesus the website is horrible, with autoplaying audio!
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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2016, 02:59:34 PM »

I would assume that there would be a news article from a more valid source if this were the case.

https://politicalwire.com/2016/01/06/johnson-will-run-for-president-again/
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2016, 03:14:49 PM »

Gary Johnson, one of the worst NM governors in history, trying to get .99% of the vote again? Seriously?

oh jesus the website is horrible, with autoplaying audio!

Who knows how much he gets? What if he gets 9.99% with 9 Electoral Votes? Cheesy
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2016, 03:33:08 PM »

Gary Johnson, one of the worst NM governors in history, trying to get .99% of the vote again? Seriously?

WE ARE THE .99%
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