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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2016, 06:23:48 PM »

Maybe we can have a bipartisan solution:
Move the minimum wage to $20/hr (or $40K/yr) and encourage marriage.  Then a couple will earn $80k.  So there will be no need for medicaid, food stamps, housing assistance or general welfare, instead everyone gets a job.  Simple.
Here is an even better solution:  Abolish the minimum wage, or set it back to $3.35 an hour.  Then let people work 2 or 3 jobs until they can have the experience and skills to live on 1 job.  Can't raise a family on $3.35 an hour?  Then wait to have a family.
And food stamps should be a temporary thing.  Some people have this idea that the rest of the world owes them a living.  A bunch of lazy deadbeats! 
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« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2016, 06:26:38 PM »

Maybe we can have a bipartisan solution:
Move the minimum wage to $20/hr (or $40K/yr) and encourage marriage.  Then a couple will earn $80k.  So there will be no need for medicaid, food stamps, housing assistance or general welfare, instead everyone gets a job.  Simple.
Here is an even better solution:  Abolish the minimum wage, or set it back to $3.35 an hour.  Then let people work 2 or 3 jobs until they can have the experience and skills to live on 1 job.  Can't raise a family on $3.35 an hour?  Then wait to have a family.
And food stamps should be a temporary thing.  Some people have this idea that the rest of the world owes them a living.  A bunch of lazy deadbeats!  

Yes, rich people are wankers.
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« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2016, 06:43:50 PM »

Here is an even better solution:  Abolish the minimum wage, or set it back to $3.35 an hour.  Then let people work 2 or 3 jobs until they can have the experience and skills to live on 1 job.  Can't raise a family on $3.35 an hour?  Then wait to have a family.

Honestly, I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not.
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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2016, 07:00:50 PM »

Here is an even better solution:  Abolish the minimum wage, or set it back to $3.35 an hour.  Then let people work 2 or 3 jobs until they can have the experience and skills to live on 1 job.  Can't raise a family on $3.35 an hour?  Then wait to have a family.

Honestly, I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not.
Serious!  Why should businesses be forced to pay a person more than they are worth? 
Herman Cain said basically the same thing about minimum wage (not the part about cutting it back).  It is a training wage, not a living wage.
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« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2016, 07:06:30 PM »

Because then taxpayers are effectively subsidising businesses's skimpiness irt their workers via benefits. And if you just start cutting benefits wholesale ... well, I think the term "Dickensian" might cover it.
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« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2016, 07:07:09 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2016, 07:09:34 PM by Virginia »

Serious!  Why should businesses be forced to pay a person more than they are worth?  
Herman Cain said basically the same thing about minimum wage (not the part about cutting it back).  It is a training wage, not a living wage.

Because there is more to this world & life than just businesses and their profits. There are families/people out there trying to survive and working as hard as anyone else. How do so many not see this? When did so many start thinking that everyone should be completely on their own and anyone needing some support is a moocher with no work ethic? Not everyone has it the same. We are where we are as a civilization because we worked together to get here, and yet so many say, "***k em', if they ain't makin it, they are lazy and on their own!".

Really, it's these types of views that give me a bad feeling in my stomach about the future. No matter what, for the time being at least, someone is always going to have to do those minimum wage jobs and paying them slave wages is going to make their lives terrible. Their place of employment might as well fill a backroom with cages for their workers if they are going to pay them $3.xx/hour, because they sure as hell are not going to be able to afford any place to live. Especially not if you also cut welfare.

As for waiting to have a family - Tell that to people who may have wanted an abortion but found it impossible to get one, or didn't believe in it. And don't say abstinence, because no matter how much people want to believe that is a solution, it is not, and never will be.
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« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2016, 10:45:02 PM »

The headline is a bit misleading - or at least gives the wrong impression.  He isn't eliminating assistance programs for the poor, just block granting it to states to come up with something more effective.
So they'll continue misusing block grant TANF funds to fill budget holes, but now with even more federal tax dollars meant to help the poor! Gee, how could that go wrong?
That's what I'm thinking (minus the mocking tone). States shouldn't be trusted with federal money at all. If they want control over it, let them come up with the money themselves. As bad as Congress is with money, it's not as bad as Blagojevich.
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« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2016, 09:17:41 AM »

Such a moderate
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