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« on: January 11, 2016, 10:53:24 PM »

Damn, on the offense now.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/11/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-in-serious
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2016, 10:58:47 PM »

Enough with this fear mongering BS. Hillary will win IA soundly. Sanders should be afraid of losing NH.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2016, 11:00:55 PM »

Looks like someone escaped from the loony bin lol
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2016, 11:01:45 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2016, 11:01:57 PM »

Enough with this fear mongering BS. Hillary will win IA soundly. Sanders should be afraid of losing NH.

How?? He has had one of his biggest numbers there recently.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2016, 11:14:10 PM »


The link that you provided just sends me to a defunct error page. I looked up the article for myself so people can use this link if they want to read it.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/11/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-in-serious-trouble/
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2016, 11:25:07 PM »

Regardless of the outcome of the first two contests, Hillary will be the nominee (or apparent) by mid March. At the end of the day, Bernie Sanders is not going to be the second coming of Barack Obama.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2016, 11:30:21 PM »

Enough with this fear mongering BS. Hillary will win IA soundly. Sanders should be afraid of losing NH.

How?? He has had one of his biggest numbers there recently.

Yeah I saw, My point was just to everyone all afraid of Hillary losing and the drastic effect of winning the nom. No dispute on the poll numbers but the hype is so funny.
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2016, 10:19:19 AM »

Regardless of the outcome of the first two contests, Hillary will be the nominee (or apparent) by mid March. At the end of the day, Bernie Sanders is not going to be the second coming of Barack Obama.

There is this idea that Bernie cannot win. Well what if he wins IA and NH? What will the story be going into NV, SC and Super Tuesday? I think Bernie can win the nomination. That may not be a bad thing for Democrats in the short run (2016), but if we becomes POTUS, it may be a very bad thing in the long run for the party, the same way Trump and Cruz will be bad for the GOP.
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2016, 10:56:58 AM »

Sanders seems to be doing quite well in Iowa and New Hampshire for sure.  Gender gap and ground organization will probably make some kind of difference.  And I get the point about critiquing her "prohibitive favorite" status.  But I don't exactly get how someone in a statistical tie for the lead is in "serious trouble."
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2016, 11:00:23 AM »

While I'm neither a huge Bernie fan (though I do like him), nor on the "Bernie can't win" bandwagon, I think it behooves us to remember that the media have a vested interest in making IA seem like a close contest, regardless of whether it is or is not. I'll also note that the "Bernie closing up in IA" narrative began t roughly the same time that it became obvious Cruz would be beating Trump there. (With the only variable being "by how much".)
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2016, 11:04:04 AM »

While I'm neither a huge Bernie fan (though I do like him), nor on the "Bernie can't win" bandwagon, I think it behooves us to remember that the media have a vested interest in making IA seem like a close contest, regardless of whether it is or is not. I'll also note that the "Bernie closing up in IA" narrative began t roughly the same time that it became obvious Cruz would be beating Trump there. (With the only variable being "by how much".)

You still think it's obvious that Cruz will beat Trump there? It seems like a toss-up to me.
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2016, 11:04:07 AM »

Clinton isnt in trouble unless she loses Nevada or SC. The early primary victories will keep race going. But, she has to lose a base state.
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2016, 11:16:18 AM »

I can not believe how well Sanders is doing.
He could take either or both of the first two states, and if he comes in second place, it will be very close.
Well done.
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2016, 11:41:30 AM »

Then, he will lose in SC, by an overwhelming margin.
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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2016, 12:01:53 PM »

Sanders will never get the minority vote, so it doesn't matter if he wins the early states. Not only will he be slaughtered in the south, he has no chance at states like PA, OH, MI & IL.
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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2016, 12:07:54 PM »

I hope this trend of Democratic primaries producing two main, hilariously divided factions continues into the future. Smiley  Not for any political reason, it's just entertaining to follow (and a lot more entertaining than a crowded field, IMO).
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2016, 12:12:19 PM »

Hillary should've put Bernie a long time ago with all the endorsements, resume, and money she has. It speaks volumes to how weak of a candidate she is, this is a 74 year old socialist from Vermont were talking about.
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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2016, 12:15:45 PM »

Hillary should've put Bernie a long time ago with all the endorsements, resume, and money she has. It speaks volumes to how weak of a candidate she is, this is a 74 year old socialist from Vermont were talking about.

Clinton is a weaker primary candidate than she is a general election candidate, she's never been particularly adept at refuting criticisms from the left.
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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2016, 12:27:34 PM »

Clinton is still more likely to be the nominee, but that position is a lot less safe now than it was two weeks ago.
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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2016, 12:40:41 PM »

Hillary should've put Bernie a long time ago with all the endorsements, resume, and money she has. It speaks volumes to how weak of a candidate she is, this is a 74 year old socialist from Vermont were talking about.

Clinton is a weaker primary candidate than she is a general election candidate, she's never been particularly adept at refuting criticisms from the left.

Look, as a GE candidate the only way she has any shot of winning is energizing her base. If the left isn't enthused with her now then her chances in the GE are diminished.
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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2016, 12:47:21 PM »

It all boils down to are the Dems gonna risk putting up a candidate that has an FBI investigation on their tail, or going with a noncontroversal candidate like Sanders. Sanders appeals to white workimg class men
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2016, 12:49:16 PM »

Judging from the recent Quinnipiac, Monmouth, FOX, and IBD/TIPP polls, he might be right.
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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2016, 12:53:16 PM »

Well, from 2008, the Bernie Sanders train is following Obama. But, if Sanders does manage to win, there wont be investigations
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2016, 12:56:31 PM »

It all boils down to are the Dems gonna risk putting up a candidate that has an FBI investigation on their tail, or going with a noncontroversal candidate like Sanders. Sanders appeals to white workimg class men

Absent an inditement, how does that work exactly - the idea that Dems will bail because of the risk of an inditement? For that to play out, Sanders would need to start cutting into Hillary's near lock on the black vote, and to a lessor extent on the Hispanic vote, as a result of such concern. How likely is that? Those would be the least likely voters out there to be swayed by that it would seem to me.
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