Bernie Sanders may break health care pledge

[YPestis25]

So when is he going to announce the gigantic tax increases necessary to pay for this thing? After he's won the nomination? Democrats should be able to know what they're voting for.

I actually agree with this. He needs to announce the plan before Iowa. Tax increases or not we still deserve to know.

[Vega]

Aren't all the details in the bill version of this that he proposed? I actually think that, according to that bill, the Conyers Single Payer bill is better.

But in any case, the details are there for his.

[Lief 🗽]

Aren't all the details in the bill version of this that he proposed? I actually think that, according to that bill, the Conyers Single Payer bill is better.

But in any case, the details are there for his.

No, he's basically denounced that bill and said he would come up with a new one.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

I think the main problem with healthcare pledges is that nobody (aside from the Republicans, who would surely use the chance to destroy Obamacare even more) really wants open a huge can of worms in regards to healthcare. Better to gradually phase in "Medicare for all" - steadily eliminate out of pocket payments, constantly push costs down by cost control (especially in regards to drugs), sneak public option into some amendment and call it the " Joe Lieberman Act", continue to bribe states to accept Medicaid Expansion (much of the stragglers are gradually returning back to the fold, you don't want to freak them out by reopening the debate) and bribe them to go even further irt single-payer. It would probably be a bit of a shock to the system if you killed off 90% of the private healthcare industry off the bat, so best to slip in to universal coverage pool gently.

Sanders does tend to be worst of both worlds - his reforms are both impossible to pass and kind of namby-pamby liberalish mush. Should have ran on something crazy radical, like nationalising the banks or workplace democracy or mutualisation or a genuine shift in foreign policy; instead it's weaksauce Redditbait.

[Trapsy]

I think the main problem with healthcare pledges is that nobody (aside from the Republicans, who would surely use the chance to destroy Obamacare even more) really wants open a huge can of worms in regards to healthcare. Better to gradually phase in "Medicare for all" - steadily eliminate out of pocket payments, constantly push costs down by cost control (especially in regards to drugs), sneak public option into some amendment and call it the " Joe Lieberman Act", continue to bribe states to accept Medicaid Expansion (much of the stragglers are gradually returning back to the fold, you don't want to freak them out by reopening the debate) and bribe them to go even further irt single-payer. It would probably be a bit of a shock to the system if you killed off 90% of the private healthcare industry off the bat, so best to slip in to universal coverage pool gently.

Sanders does tend to be worst of both worlds - his reforms are both impossible to pass and kind of namby-pamby liberalish mush. Should have ran on something crazy radical, like nationalising the banks or workplace democracy or mutualisation or a genuine shift in foreign policy; instead it's weaksauce Redditbait.

The funny thing is Sanders admitted that it's probably not possible to implement his healthcare plan in his first term.

[Vega]

Should have ran on something crazy radical, like nationalising the banks or workplace democracy or mutualisation or a genuine shift in foreign policy; instead it's weaksauce Redditbait.

He is running on that - the check card act is something he's big on. Unless you mean something else.

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ITT: Shillaries and Sandernistas, both of whom are acting idiotic.

[Asian Nazi]

lmao, shocking!

Bernie is full of it like a lot of other politicians. This is no big surprise.

He is one of the most transparent non corrupt politiction in America. Why do you think Vermont re-elected him with over 70%?

Because Vermont re-elects everyone with over 70%?

Let me tell you about my personal hero, godlike Senator Mike Crapo (R-ID), who was re-elected with over 70% of the vote also

Over 70%?  Weaksauce.  My man Chaka Fattah is so clean that he wins every election with over 80%!

[Holmes]

He can't release his plans to fund his health care plan before Iowa now that he's surging. He hopes to pull off a win, then release it, still win New Hampshire and hope that coverage of that and his momentum overshadows the bad press.

[Slow Learner]

I think the main problem with healthcare pledges is that nobody (aside from the Republicans, who would surely use the chance to destroy Obamacare even more) really wants open a huge can of worms in regards to healthcare. Better to gradually phase in "Medicare for all" - steadily eliminate out of pocket payments, constantly push costs down by cost control (especially in regards to drugs), sneak public option into some amendment and call it the " Joe Lieberman Act", continue to bribe states to accept Medicaid Expansion (much of the stragglers are gradually returning back to the fold, you don't want to freak them out by reopening the debate) and bribe them to go even further irt single-payer. It would probably be a bit of a shock to the system if you killed off 90% of the private healthcare industry off the bat, so best to slip in to universal coverage pool gently.

Sanders does tend to be worst of both worlds - his reforms are both impossible to pass and kind of namby-pamby liberalish mush. Should have ran on something crazy radical, like nationalising the banks or workplace democracy or mutualisation or a genuine shift in foreign policy; instead it's weaksauce Redditbait.

To be fair, Sanders does actually support Worker Co-Ops.