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« on: January 14, 2016, 11:21:12 PM »

Well who was tonights biggest loser?
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2016, 11:24:37 PM »

Jeb, like every debate
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2016, 11:31:07 PM »

Kasich and Carson needed big nights and they both were as terrible as you'd expect.  So I say they lose by default.  Rubio was having a bad night until he MURDERED Cruz.

Jeb, well, he did better than he had been but was pretty invisible.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2016, 11:31:37 PM »

Rubio lost the most.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2016, 12:07:04 AM »

Carson. I don't know why he even bothers to come to these things.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2016, 12:12:40 AM »

Carson. I don't know why he even bothers to come to these things.

Free advertising for his books and speaking gigs. How is there anyone left who doesn't realize that was the whole point of his campaign?
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2016, 12:15:12 AM »

Rubio, as he yet again failed to make any sort of breakthrough.
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2016, 12:18:48 AM »

Ted Cruz had a rough night. He got BLASTED by both TRUMP and Rubs.
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2016, 12:21:06 AM »

Kasich. I don't think he's a terrible person or anything or that he didn't make any good point. I feel like he mentions Ohio too much and about how long he spent in Washington or whatever. At first it was good to show his experience but his whole shtick feels tedious now. Also I find him very boring.

I don't feel like Carson said anything very substantive. Jeb was 'okay', but mediocre in general.

Kasich obviously knows what he's talking about, and at least Carson has a couple of charming moments. Bush tried hard to have an impact but fell flat. Since I had to choose I voted Kasich since he's always been the least appealing candidate to me of the 'main stage' guys, but all three of the ones I mentioned just didn't do it for me.
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2016, 12:21:23 AM »

Pretty obviously Carson.  He did not come off as a serious candidate.
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2016, 12:47:10 AM »

Carson. I don't know why he even bothers to come to these things.

Free advertising for his books and speaking gigs. How is there anyone left who doesn't realize that was the whole point of his campaign?

If someone saw that debate and said "We need to invite that guy to come speak to us," they deserve to listen to a speech by Ben Carson.
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2016, 01:29:43 AM »

Carson did not "lose" because Carson was not even trying. He's clearly decided to just kick back, chill, and sell some more books while he rides this thing out.
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2016, 01:41:35 AM »

Carson reminds me more and more of Bobby Newport from Parks and Rec.
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2016, 01:46:00 AM »

Carson reminds me more and more of Bobby Newport from Parks and Rec.

The comparison I've heard is Chauncey Gardner from Being There, but Bobby Newport is a good comparison as well.
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2016, 01:58:47 AM »

Rubio, Kasich, and Bush didn't do all that well or all that bad, but none of them will improve.

Ben Carson, on the other hand, seemed like he should've been hosting Ancient Aliens or something else for the History Channel.
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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2016, 02:26:24 AM »

Bush and Kasich did awful but neither really had too much riding on the debate.
I think Cruz crashed way too many times for comfort, so he lost imo.
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2016, 07:41:40 AM »

Carson, he was simply awful
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2016, 07:48:44 AM »

Ted Cruz is going to have to retire his hateful and disgusting "New York values" line, so that's an objective criterion for who lost.
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2016, 08:35:04 AM »

Kasich definitely....and it wasn't close at all... Runner up for loser is Jeb Bush
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2016, 09:10:15 AM »

The thing is, Rubio always "wins" the debates and Carson always "loses" them, but it never directly affects the poll numbers.
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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2016, 09:27:19 AM »

Nobody's been voting for Carson on the strength/weakness of his debate performances. It didn't matter when he was at 25%, it didn't matter now.

Kasich came off as basically competent, but he (along with Carson) didn't really engage with the other candidates. Kasich is going for the Huntsman constituency and hoping that's enough to at least place second and keep his campaign going after NH. What he needed to do was not blow it. He didn't blow it.

The biggest loser, of course, was Jeb Bush, whose attacks on Trump came off as weak and ridiculous. Yes, the audience booed Trump when he insulted Bush, but make no mistake that Bush is only continuing to decline. At this point Christie and Kasich both seem likelier than Bush to supplant Rubio as the eventual establishment candidate (whatever being establishment candidate is worth in this race).
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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2016, 09:31:37 AM »

Carson. He needed something going into iowa in a few weeks, and it wasn't there.
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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2016, 09:50:06 AM »

Carson is always the big loser. But overall, I don't think this debate changed much. Part of that was the questions were so poorly framed, and the candidates spent most of their time giving generalized stump speeches. I guess the debate did frame the attack ads that Rubio and Cruz will be slinging at each other down the line. Trump spends his time making outrageous proposals that will never work, but may him seem strong and decisive. That too down the line will be the subject of attack ads, to try to slowly expose that the emperor has no clothes. In the end, perhaps that will have some impact even on the increasingly detached from reality portion of the Pub base that just wants a strongman caudillo to kick butt.
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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2016, 09:50:27 AM »

The thing is, Rubio always "wins" the debates and Carson always "loses" them, but it never directly affects the poll numbers.

Rubio never wins the debates. Even the moderator last night called him out for just reciting bland talking points every single time.
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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2016, 01:41:08 PM »

Cruz probably lost the most ground and was subject to the worst beat down Trump's given anyone since he wiped the floor with the first debate's moderators.  Carson, Kasich, and Jeb! are too irrelevant to lose a debate in a meaningful way.
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